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Old 07-26-08, 11:06 AM   #1
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Interesting things written by one of our Senators:

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Things you didn't know about oil shale

By Sen. Orrin Hatch of Utah




Democrats control Congress, so Americans ought to be asking about their plan to lower gas prices. Let's hope their plan doesn't rest on solar, wind and geothermal, because planes, trains and automobiles don't run on electricity; they run on oil - mostly foreign oil. Or at least 97 percent of the time they run on oil, and the other 3 percent is mostly ethanol. Let's also hope the Democrats" plan doesn't rest on ethanol to break our dependence on foreign oil, because it can't. More on that later.


Americans ship about $700 billion annually to foreign oil traffickers, and Democrats respond by shutting down America's own energy supplies. Now at the mercy of foreign governments smart enough to produce their own energy, we are selling away our nation's place in the world and funding the rise of our most aggressive competitors and even our enemies.


Colorado, Wyoming and Utah have more oil in oil shale than OPEC. Everyone seems to know that by now, but here are six things you probably did not know about oil shale.


1) Did you know oil shale has a smaller carbon footprint than ethanol? When calculating the carbon emissions of the entire oil shale process, without the use of carbon capture technology, its total carbon footprint is about 7 percent larger than gasoline. But a peer-reviewed article in the February issue of Science calculates the entire carbon footprint of ethanol to be 93 percent larger than gasoline. The article reports that even switchgrass footprint is 50 percent larger than gasoline.


2) Did you know oil shale uses less water than ethanol and no more than gasoline? Increased ethanol production will require more irrigation. A September 2007 article in Southwest Hydrology states that irrigated corn requires more than 780 barrels of water for each barrel of ethanol. The Department of Energy reports that oil shale, for the entire process including land restoration, requires three barrels of water for every barrel of shale oil, about the same as gasoline.


3) Did you know oil shale uses much less land than either ethanol or gasoline? One acre of corn produces 10 barrels of ethanol. One acre in the oil patch produces about 10,000 barrels of oil. One acre of oil shale produces between 100,000 and one million-plus barrels of shale oil! No, that's not a typo.


Whether your concern is carbon emissions, water use or wildlife habitat, oil shale is a better answer than ethanol. And when it comes to transportation fuels, ethanol is the only alternative of any real significance.


4) Did you know oil shale has been commercially produced in Brazil for 30 years and in Estonia for 80 years? Technology is not a barrier.


5) Did you know that oil shale failed in 1982 due to the price dropping to $10 a barrel, not because of technology or scarcity of water? That was a quarter century ago, and a lot has changed since then. Time Magazine's Man of the Year in 1982 was the Computer. Today, we have better technology, better environmental regulations and OPEC can no longer flood the oil market.


6) Did you know current law gives each governor, before any commercial leases are granted, the right to set the pace of oil shale development? But Rep. Mark Udall has put a moratorium on commercial leasing regulations, effectively taking away that right for Utah's governor. The action produces no additional rights for Colorado, but destroys Utah's right to move forward at any pace.


Some have expressed concerns that the horse should not be put in front of the cart with regard to oil shale production. But the moratorium slaughters the horse and barricades the road. You protect against a bust by supporting an activity, not artificially starving it.


I've supported Colorado's right to choose its own pace. Utah deserves the same courtesy.
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Old 07-26-08, 11:31 AM   #2
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I've never been a fan of Orrin Hatch, but then who does like their own elected representatives, even though obviously somebody votes for them.

That said, I certainly agree with him here.
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I've never been a fan of Orrin Hatch, but then who does like their own elected representatives, even though obviously somebody votes for them.

That said, I certainly agree with him here.
He is the guy in cahoots with the RIAA and MPAA, correct? Yeah, I don't like him either, but I also agree with him here.

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He's also the guy who got elected with the slogan "Don't you think twelve years is enough, senator?", and has now been in office thirty-one years.

On the other hand, when PBS did a documentary series on the Constitution, he was great speaking on the Second Amendment.

I still think he's a wienie, though.
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So I guess the idiot question is "what is holding up Oil Shale exploitation?

Government?

Oil Companies?

Environmentalists?

Technical?
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"because planes, trains and automobiles don't run on electricity; they run on oil - mostly foreign oil. Or at least 97 percent of the time they run on oil,.."

This is misleading. I am not aware of any planes that run on oil. I still think that the vast majority of automobiles do not run on oil. I don't know of any trains that run on oil. All these modes of transportation run off of derivative products from oil, but not from oil itself. Planes using avgas or Jet Fuel; trains use diesel, and the majority of automobiles use MoGas.

Shale oil does not contain the full range of hydrocarbons used in modern gasoline production, and could only be used to produce middle-distillates such as kerosene, jet fuel, and diesel fuel. Source http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_shale

"The perception that oil shale serves as a crude oil substitute overlooks the
limited fungibility of the middle distillates that are extractable — they make poor
feedstock for gasoline production. That does not necessarily prevent oil-shale
distillates from being used as gasoline feedstock, but additional energy and hydrogen
are needed to crack them. The loss may be even greater considering the lower fuel
efficiency of spark-ignition engines that use gasoline, compared with compression
ignition engines that use diesel distillate fuels.

Source "Oil Shale: "History, Incentives, and Policy" http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/RL33359.pdf.

So while the use of Oil Shale may provide an alternate source of kerosene, jet fuel, and diesel fuel, it won't be a source of MoGas.

This is not to say that the United States should not explore the many uses of Oil Shale. From generating electric power to distilling the middle distillates Oil Shale seems to offer much. It would serve to diminish (to some extent) the demand for crude oil. Whether that would affect the price of Mogas is uncertain.

But if people are selling Oil Shale industries as a way of producing MoGas so we can remove our dependence on foreign crude oil industries, I don't think that will be a viable solution.
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So I guess the idiot question is "what is holding up Oil Shale exploitation?

Government?

Oil Companies?

Environmentalists?

Technical?
Money?
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