Sunk......but why?

sharkbit · 07-11-08, 03:14 PM

The glorious career of Oberleutnant z. S. M. Anderson, commanding the VIIB U-48 came to end on April 13, 1940 in Vestfjiord outside of Narvik. The boat was lost with all hands. (The brothels in Wilhelmshaven will fly there panties at half mast in honor of her gallant crew.)

I keep wondering, how?

I just sank the HMS Nelson(my first battleship-

), escorted by 9 destroyers. I crash dived after a destroyer spotted my periscope(too busy rubbernecking the sinking and hoping to maybe even the odds a little bit by taking a destroyer out as well) and hit me with gunfire. I had minor damage to the conning tower, no flooding that I could see. I passed 80 meters and kept going. I put on speed to try to arrest the descent but unfortuneately, I had to go pick up the kids from day care and I had to save-I know...saving submerged, near land, with other ships nearby is supposedly taboo, but I've never had any problems before.

Yesterday, I come home from work and have some time to play a little bit and am looking forward to trying to evade 9 pissed destroyers and figure out why I keep going down past my ordered depth.
I load up, the control room opens up showing a very steep angle, lights flashing, explosions, and reports of damage, men on deck and what not and then the death screen. The depth meter showed about 110m and I had at least another 100m below keel.

WTF.

I just keep wondering what happened. It went from a seemingly under control, albeit tense, situation to the death screen and the commanders white cap floating to the surface.
There didn't seem to be any destroyers nearby dropping DC's at the time of the save, but I have a feeling that is exactly what happened and I just got caught in a bad DC pattern. Just plain bad timing I guess.

I kinda wonder if it was changing the depth after ordering a crash dive. I've heard stories that is not a good thing to do, but I guess I'll just never know exactly what happened.

Oh well. Dead is dead.

On a good note, I was awarded the Oak Leaves to my Knights Cross. Unfortuneately, it was posthumously.

A new Kaleun has joined the ranks in U-36 in May of 1940. He his currently on his first patrol near Dunkirk in water that is waaaaay to shallow for his liking.

msalama · 07-11-08, 03:49 PM

Probably the save under those circumstances that did it. Happens to everyone in this game you know

GoldenRivet · 07-11-08, 04:30 PM

saving under water with ships about is not supposedly taboo

it IS taboo

if you do it... even once... you will likley reap the consequences.

its always better to just pause the game.

bert8for3 · 07-11-08, 04:31 PM

I'm thinking also the save game was messed up from being submerged. I've never heard of a submerged save being playable.

Too bad, sounds like you were in for an interesting time.

irish1958 · 07-11-08, 07:21 PM

Those damn mines again?

Tim Stan Armstrong · 07-11-08, 09:13 PM

Funny, iv'e saved submerged a couple of time and have loaded without problems

Gezoes · 07-12-08, 03:53 AM

Dito. But I try to always save surfaced when nobody is around.

bookworm_020 · 07-13-08, 10:58 PM

Quote:

The brothels in Wilhelmshaven will fly there panties at half mast in honor of her gallant crew.

Didn't know they wore any!

Bosje · 07-14-08, 06:45 AM

i make a point of sinking that nelson class in the narvik fjord in every career i start, lol

failsafe way to stay alive: dont mess up the hull beforehand and hang low at 200 meters: depthcharges and / or asdic can't reach there in that stage of the war. never got killed by those 9 bad boys

sharkbit · 07-14-08, 07:29 AM

The Nelson came as somewhat of a shock. I was expecting to see the Warspite.
Wasn't she the historical ship that sailed up the fjiord to Narvik on 4/13/40 to give the German destroyers such a hard time after they were decimated by the British destroyers on the 10th?

Jimbuna · 07-14-08, 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sharkbit

The Nelson came as somewhat of a shock. I was expecting to see the Warspite.
Wasn't she the historical ship that sailed up the fjiord to Narvik on 4/13/40 to give the German destroyers such a hard time after they were decimated by the British destroyers on the 10th?

That is correct...if your playing GWX2.1, you have options:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...light=warspite

sharkbit · 07-14-08, 11:28 AM

thanks for the info.

07-11-08, 03:14 PM	#1
sharkbit The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 1,529 Downloads: 334 Uploads: 0	Sunk......but why? The glorious career of Oberleutnant z. S. M. Anderson, commanding the VIIB U-48 came to end on April 13, 1940 in Vestfjiord outside of Narvik. The boat was lost with all hands. (The brothels in Wilhelmshaven will fly there panties at half mast in honor of her gallant crew.) I keep wondering, how? I just sank the HMS Nelson(my first battleship- ), escorted by 9 destroyers. I crash dived after a destroyer spotted my periscope(too busy rubbernecking the sinking and hoping to maybe even the odds a little bit by taking a destroyer out as well) and hit me with gunfire. I had minor damage to the conning tower, no flooding that I could see. I passed 80 meters and kept going. I put on speed to try to arrest the descent but unfortuneately, I had to go pick up the kids from day care and I had to save-I know...saving submerged, near land, with other ships nearby is supposedly taboo, but I've never had any problems before. Yesterday, I come home from work and have some time to play a little bit and am looking forward to trying to evade 9 pissed destroyers and figure out why I keep going down past my ordered depth. I load up, the control room opens up showing a very steep angle, lights flashing, explosions, and reports of damage, men on deck and what not and then the death screen. The depth meter showed about 110m and I had at least another 100m below keel. WTF. I just keep wondering what happened. It went from a seemingly under control, albeit tense, situation to the death screen and the commanders white cap floating to the surface. There didn't seem to be any destroyers nearby dropping DC's at the time of the save, but I have a feeling that is exactly what happened and I just got caught in a bad DC pattern. Just plain bad timing I guess. I kinda wonder if it was changing the depth after ordering a crash dive. I've heard stories that is not a good thing to do, but I guess I'll just never know exactly what happened. Oh well. Dead is dead. On a good note, I was awarded the Oak Leaves to my Knights Cross. Unfortuneately, it was posthumously. A new Kaleun has joined the ranks in U-36 in May of 1940. He his currently on his first patrol near Dunkirk in water that is waaaaay to shallow for his liking. __________________ “Prejudice is blind. There will always be someone who says you aren’t welcome at the table. Stop apologizing for who you are and using all your energy trying to change their minds. Yes, you will lose friends, maybe even family. But you will gain your self-respect. You will know your worth. Once you have that, nothing can stop you.”

07-11-08, 04:30 PM	#3
GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,726 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	saving under water with ships about is not supposedly taboo it IS taboo if you do it... even once... you will likley reap the consequences. its always better to just pause the game. __________________

07-11-08, 04:31 PM	#4
bert8for3 Ace of the Deep Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 1,124 Downloads: 110 Uploads: 0	I'm thinking also the save game was messed up from being submerged. I've never heard of a submerged save being playable. Too bad, sounds like you were in for an interesting time. __________________

07-11-08, 07:21 PM	#5
irish1958 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Carmel, Indiana Posts: 3,250 Downloads: 320 Uploads: 11	Those damn mines again? __________________ Irish1958

07-12-08, 03:53 AM	#7
Gezoes XO Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 435 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	Dito. But I try to always save surfaced when nobody is around. __________________ If I wasn't a little mad, I'd go mad.

07-11-08, 03:49 PM	#2
msalama Samurai Navy Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: In an octopus's garden Posts: 565 Downloads: 99 Uploads: 0	Probably the save under those circumstances that did it. Happens to everyone in this game you know

07-11-08, 09:13 PM	#6
Tim Stan Armstrong Swabbie Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Geelong, Australia Posts: 10 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Funny, iv'e saved submerged a couple of time and have loaded without problems

07-14-08, 06:45 AM	#9
Bosje Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 732 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 0	i make a point of sinking that nelson class in the narvik fjord in every career i start, lol failsafe way to stay alive: dont mess up the hull beforehand and hang low at 200 meters: depthcharges and / or asdic can't reach there in that stage of the war. never got killed by those 9 bad boys __________________ And when an 800-ton Uboat has you by the tits... you listen!

07-14-08, 07:29 AM	#10
sharkbit The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 1,529 Downloads: 334 Uploads: 0	The Nelson came as somewhat of a shock. I was expecting to see the Warspite. Wasn't she the historical ship that sailed up the fjiord to Narvik on 4/13/40 to give the German destroyers such a hard time after they were decimated by the British destroyers on the 10th? __________________ “Prejudice is blind. There will always be someone who says you aren’t welcome at the table. Stop apologizing for who you are and using all your energy trying to change their minds. Yes, you will lose friends, maybe even family. But you will gain your self-respect. You will know your worth. Once you have that, nothing can stop you.”

07-14-08, 11:28 AM	#12
sharkbit The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 1,529 Downloads: 334 Uploads: 0	thanks for the info. __________________ “Prejudice is blind. There will always be someone who says you aren’t welcome at the table. Stop apologizing for who you are and using all your energy trying to change their minds. Yes, you will lose friends, maybe even family. But you will gain your self-respect. You will know your worth. Once you have that, nothing can stop you.”