Americans are creative when it comes to weaponry

SUBMAN1 · 07-09-08, 09:55 PM

Check the Army's prototype ultimate shotgun!

http://shock.military.com/Shock/vide...RC=airforce.nl

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UnderseaLcpl · 07-09-08, 10:53 PM

I think we already had a round like this for the M551 Sheridan, our aluminum tank.

Sailor Steve · 07-10-08, 01:48 AM

They had grape and canister rounds in the Civil War. The woodclad gunboat USS Conestoga made an incursion down the Mississippi to scout Confederate strongholds on September 10, 1861. Her report states that they were fired on by a southern regiment at one point. A barrage of grapeshot from four 8" Dalgrens sent the lot of them scurrying over the hill.

joegrundman · 07-10-08, 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

They had grape and canister rounds in the Civil War. The woodclad gunboat USS Conestoga made an incursion down the Mississippi to scout Confederate strongholds on September 10, 1861. Her report states that they were fired on by a southern regiment at one point. A barrage of grapeshot from four 8" Dalgrens sent the lot of them scurrying over the hill.

grape and cannister way, way, predate the ACW. They even predate the USA.

Skybird · 07-10-08, 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

They had grape and canister rounds in the Civil War. The woodclad gunboat USS Conestoga made an incursion down the Mississippi to scout Confederate strongholds on September 10, 1861. Her report states that they were fired on by a southern regiment at one point. A barrage of grapeshot from four 8" Dalgrens sent the lot of them scurrying over the hill.

grape and cannister way, way, predate the ACW. They even predate the USA.

Canistre rounds can be tried out in steel beasts pro. There it is the M1028 for the Abrams' 120mm gun, so in principal it could be used by german tanks as well. Comparable rounds are being tried in Sweden and Germany as well. They are considered "exotic", it is not yet decided if any of these nations will field them in quantities that gives them a status of "normally available ordanance". The americans maybe. Don't know it, but I am sure that the Israeli with their lots of house fighting experience also tried or have something like this.

Primary intention for this kind of ammo is infantry in houses (that's why the US army saw a need for this ammo type not before experiencing the Iraq war), but it should be enough to deliver a serious blow to APCs and IFVs as well, doing at least significant damage. Tanks: I would not bet my money on that it is clever to attract their attention by using this ammo.

mcf1 · 07-10-08, 04:07 AM

Wow, that thing could take out a hole infantry platoon, even if they're in spread formation

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Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	They had grape and canister rounds in the Civil War. The woodclad gunboat USS Conestoga made an incursion down the Mississippi to scout Confederate strongholds on September 10, 1861. Her report states that they were fired on by a southern regiment at one point. A barrage of grapeshot from four 8" Dalgrens sent the lot of them scurrying over the hill. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

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mcf1 Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Greece, Volos Posts: 710 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Wow, that thing could take out a hole infantry platoon, even if they're in spread formation