Ceramic hull subs?

Frame57 · 07-06-08, 01:46 PM

I remember a Cheif once talking about the navy experimenting with what he called "Glass" for future use in making hulls for subs. At that time I thought how cool that would be because then I could see stuff. But I think he was referring to ceramic. Now I am reading a book by Joe Buff, where these subs have ceramic hulls and can acheive tremndous depths. So I was wondering if any one else heard of theis and what your opinion of it might be?

SUBMAN1 · 07-06-08, 01:48 PM

Scary is my opinion.

Ceramics break, they don't bend. I would prefer to have something that can give a little when I have many tons of ocean that might want to come in on me!

Just my 2 cents.

-S

Raptor1 · 07-06-08, 01:49 PM

I have not heard of this, but I do know that the hull of the deepest diving submarines (The Alfas and the K-278 Komsomolets (Mike)) is made out of a titanium alloy

SUBMAN1 · 07-06-08, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Raptor1

I have not heard of this, but I do know that the hulls of the deepest diving submarines (The Alfas and the K-278 Komsomolets (Mike)) is made out of a titanium alloy

I'll take titanium any day!

-S

Raptor1 · 07-06-08, 01:53 PM

Me too

Ceramic has the unfortunate problem of being highly brittle, which is why it would perform rather poorly under stress (IE, in the bottom of the Ocean)...me thinks...

Yahoshua · 07-06-08, 01:59 PM

However, it is worth noting that ceramic materials is a wonderful absorbing medium against shocks.

Does anyone here know if ceramics have sound-absorbing qualities?

Raptor1 · 07-06-08, 02:02 PM

I don't know if it has any sound-absorbing qualities, but if it does, it could theoretically be used to coat the outer skin of a submarine in a shallow-depth infiltration mission, trading depth for stealth, right?

Stealth Hunter · 07-08-08, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

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Originally Posted by Raptor1

I have not heard of this, but I do know that the hulls of the deepest diving submarines (The Alfas and the K-278 Komsomolets (Mike)) is made out of a titanium alloy

I'll take titanium any day!

-S

07-06-08, 01:46 PM	#1
Frame57 Sea Lord Join Date: May 2008 Location: 1300 feet on the crapper Posts: 1,860 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Ceramic hull subs? I remember a Cheif once talking about the navy experimenting with what he called "Glass" for future use in making hulls for subs. At that time I thought how cool that would be because then I could see stuff. But I think he was referring to ceramic. Now I am reading a book by Joe Buff, where these subs have ceramic hulls and can acheive tremndous depths. So I was wondering if any one else heard of theis and what your opinion of it might be?

07-06-08, 01:48 PM	#2
SUBMAN1 Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 11,866 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Scary is my opinion. Ceramics break, they don't bend. I would prefer to have something that can give a little when I have many tons of ocean that might want to come in on me! Just my 2 cents. -S __________________

07-06-08, 01:49 PM	#3
Raptor1 Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Stavka Posts: 8,211 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	I have not heard of this, but I do know that the hull of the deepest diving submarines (The Alfas and the K-278 Komsomolets (Mike)) is made out of a titanium alloy __________________ Current Eastern Front status: Probable Victory

07-06-08, 01:53 PM	#5
Raptor1 Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Stavka Posts: 8,211 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	Me too Ceramic has the unfortunate problem of being highly brittle, which is why it would perform rather poorly under stress (IE, in the bottom of the Ocean)...me thinks... __________________ Current Eastern Front status: Probable Victory

07-06-08, 01:59 PM	#6
Yahoshua The Old Man Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,493 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	However, it is worth noting that ceramic materials is a wonderful absorbing medium against shocks. Does anyone here know if ceramics have sound-absorbing qualities? __________________ Science is the organized unpredictability that strives not to set limits to mans' capabilities, but is the engine by which the limits of mans' understanding is defined-Yahoshua

07-06-08, 02:02 PM	#7
Raptor1 Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Stavka Posts: 8,211 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	I don't know if it has any sound-absorbing qualities, but if it does, it could theoretically be used to coat the outer skin of a submarine in a shallow-depth infiltration mission, trading depth for stealth, right? __________________ Current Eastern Front status: Probable Victory