Artillery range

Buhring · 05-27-08, 03:16 PM

Where can I find the max firing range for the different naval guns in SH3/GWX?

Gute Jagd

Buhring

Platapus · 05-27-08, 05:42 PM

When you say max range, do you mean max practical combat range or the absolute max range of the gun?

The difference between the two can be significant.

With my trusty rusty type VII I seldom shoot my deck gun past 5,000 meters. Even then I will only shoot at 180 AoB to compensate for the range error. The gun can shoot a lot further but the accuracy goes down the toilet. The further away the target the more effects the sea conditions and the range errors are.

A few careers ago I had a ship dead in the water. For S&G I backed away about 4,000 meters just for the practice of long range shelling. Even at a dead stop with calm seas the range variance where my shells were landing made shooting at that range very uneconomical.

Long range shelling with a non-directed gun takes a lot of rounds to get a good bracket. And if you or your target is moving, all bets are off.

Buhring · 05-28-08, 12:58 AM

I mean both max range AND practical firing range. However my problem is not the range of our subs' guns (I know that by experience), but that of *enemy* artillery: I assume the safe distance from a PT boat, armed with 20mm guns is less than that from a trawler with 3" guns, and from a DD with 5" -- and so on.

While it's easy to know the number and the calibre of guns on enemy ships, I did not find any info on the range of these weapons, neither in the museum, nor in the SH3 and GWX manuals.

Gute Jagd

Buhring

Platapus · 05-28-08, 05:33 AM

Ah sorry, I misunderstood. You are looking for the ranges of the ship borne guns shootin at YOU.

To find out the actual ranges you might check out http://www.navweaps.com

Now the real question is whether GWX modeled these guns accurately. I would recommend writing to the GWX team with your specific questions.

Kaleun Cook · 05-28-08, 05:51 AM

If such data exists it's not a good idea to play according to them anyways. DD's will fire from anywhere within 16 km, no matter if it's effective since a random shell can always hit the boat.

richardphat · 05-28-08, 05:34 PM

I have not check the link yet but artillery are not very effefctive from distance. Due to the accuracy problem, it can shoot many shells before it hit a target. But basically if ship are equipped with many artillery cannon it would be easier.
For small gun like the 20mm it would have not any problem to shoot since its range is not very far. But you know it depends also on the wind and the weathers, it would be useless to attack at a rainy days

Kpt. Lehmann · 05-28-08, 05:40 PM

The maximum range of guns firing on you in GWX is dependant on the maximum possible range of the gun itself and environmental conditions at the time. Therefore it is not a constant range in-game... same as in real life.

Just to state the obvious in a general sense though, the bigger the gun... the farther it can reach.

05-27-08, 03:16 PM	#1
Buhring Helmsman Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Italy Posts: 108 Downloads: 122 Uploads: 0	Artillery range Where can I find the max firing range for the different naval guns in SH3/GWX? Gute Jagd Buhring

05-27-08, 05:42 PM	#2
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,377 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	When you say max range, do you mean max practical combat range or the absolute max range of the gun? The difference between the two can be significant. With my trusty rusty type VII I seldom shoot my deck gun past 5,000 meters. Even then I will only shoot at 180 AoB to compensate for the range error. The gun can shoot a lot further but the accuracy goes down the toilet. The further away the target the more effects the sea conditions and the range errors are. A few careers ago I had a ship dead in the water. For S&G I backed away about 4,000 meters just for the practice of long range shelling. Even at a dead stop with calm seas the range variance where my shells were landing made shooting at that range very uneconomical. Long range shelling with a non-directed gun takes a lot of rounds to get a good bracket. And if you or your target is moving, all bets are off. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

05-28-08, 05:33 AM	#4
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,377 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	Ah sorry, I misunderstood. You are looking for the ranges of the ship borne guns shootin at YOU. To find out the actual ranges you might check out http://www.navweaps.com Now the real question is whether GWX modeled these guns accurately. I would recommend writing to the GWX team with your specific questions. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

05-28-08, 05:40 PM	#7
Kpt. Lehmann GWX Project Director Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: The Republic of Texas Posts: 6,994 Downloads: 124 Uploads: 0	The maximum range of guns firing on you in GWX is dependant on the maximum possible range of the gun itself and environmental conditions at the time. Therefore it is not a constant range in-game... same as in real life. Just to state the obvious in a general sense though, the bigger the gun... the farther it can reach. __________________ www.thegreywolves.com All you need is good men. - Heinrich Lehmann-Willenbrock

05-28-08, 12:58 AM	#3
Buhring Helmsman Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Italy Posts: 108 Downloads: 122 Uploads: 0	I mean both max range AND practical firing range. However my problem is not the range of our subs' guns (I know that by experience), but that of enemy artillery: I assume the safe distance from a PT boat, armed with 20mm guns is less than that from a trawler with 3" guns, and from a DD with 5" -- and so on. While it's easy to know the number and the calibre of guns on enemy ships, I did not find any info on the range of these weapons, neither in the museum, nor in the SH3 and GWX manuals. Gute Jagd Buhring

05-28-08, 05:51 AM	#5
Kaleun Cook Chief Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: ger Posts: 313 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	If such data exists it's not a good idea to play according to them anyways. DD's will fire from anywhere within 16 km, no matter if it's effective since a random shell can always hit the boat.

05-28-08, 05:34 PM	#6
richardphat Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 682 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	I have not check the link yet but artillery are not very effefctive from distance. Due to the accuracy problem, it can shoot many shells before it hit a target. But basically if ship are equipped with many artillery cannon it would be easier. For small gun like the 20mm it would have not any problem to shoot since its range is not very far. But you know it depends also on the wind and the weathers, it would be useless to attack at a rainy days