Is there a way to stop floating docks sinking in rough weather?

Reece · 05-05-08, 12:04 AM

Hi, sometimes I get the urge to return to port after a long patrol rather than just "exit patrol", and it is a shame that ships move about and end up merged with walls etc, a stock hard coded bug I believe.

But I think some objects like the Floating Docks just sink because of bad weather:

They are still far enough away from the concrete walls etc so I figure it must be, is there away to make these floating Docks a little tougher?

Just by the way, I think there was a quick way to traverse the Kiel Canal, can someone point it out? Thanks.

Philipp_Thomsen · 05-05-08, 12:20 AM

Put them over 10 meters of shallow waters...

But seriously... its just a configuration of the .sim files... they are sitted down too much on the water... and besides, that wave amplitude of 320 from GWX ruins everything...

Reece · 05-05-08, 01:12 AM

This is the sim file settings, the Surfaced draught is 0:

Any ideas?

05-05-08, 01:18 AM

Set it to match the cfg file.
This is the sinking ship bug you hear about.
The sim not being fixed correctly.

Philipp_Thomsen · 05-05-08, 01:18 AM

Increase the submerged draught to 30 and do some tests...

If you get the opposite effect, then try 5...

I'm pretty tired right now, so I may have spoken bullsh!t...

Venatore · 05-05-08, 02:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Philipp_Thomsen

I'm pretty tired right now, so I may have spoken bullsh!t...

:rotfl:

Reece · 05-05-08, 04:11 AM

Sounds like me on a good day Ven!

Der Teddy Bar · 05-05-08, 07:03 AM

Something sinking due to heavy seas is often because a objects 'zone' has a 'Crash Depth' value specified in the Zones.cfg that is not deep enough.

Crash Depth=5 specifies that when this zone is at this depth, 5 metres, then it will take on damage and thus flood.

Hope this helps.

Sailor Steve · 05-05-08, 08:17 AM

I just wish the game allowed a difference between harbors and high seas. The whole point of having a "safe haven" is to have a place where your ships are, well, "safe". There should be almost no motion in a harbor, or at least much less than you find on the outside.

05-05-08, 08:51 AM

Dover August 3 1939

Reece · 05-05-08, 09:36 AM

Well back from patrol, I only saved & exited once and patrol only lasted a few weeks, when I got back the Floating Docks had moved apart from each other and drifted a little but still afloat, previously the carrier had merged with the concrete dock slightly but was still in it's proper place this time, will have to test again later, don't know what setting you changed BBW, but may have done the job!

Thanks.

bigboywooly · 05-05-08, 11:04 AM

The surfaced draft was set to 0 in the sim
I set it as the cfg file
5 for the BUV 1 and 13 for the BUV 2

Drift into harbours is a royal PITA
It would have been better for harbours to be rendered first instead its the ships
They move in the sea by the time the harbours are rendered so can end up in them

Could be a lot more units placed in ports ( for those that have a system to handle it ) but darent due to those issues

Tis worse the longer you stay in ship render range before entering harbour rendering range

05-05-08, 12:04 AM	#1
Reece CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Down Under Posts: 34,720 Downloads: 171 Uploads: 0	Is there a way to stop floating docks sinking in rough weather? Hi, sometimes I get the urge to return to port after a long patrol rather than just "exit patrol", and it is a shame that ships move about and end up merged with walls etc, a stock hard coded bug I believe. But I think some objects like the Floating Docks just sink because of bad weather: They are still far enough away from the concrete walls etc so I figure it must be, is there away to make these floating Docks a little tougher? Just by the way, I think there was a quick way to traverse the Kiel Canal, can someone point it out? Thanks. __________________ *Sub captains go down with their ship!*

05-05-08, 12:20 AM	#2
Philipp_Thomsen Old Gang Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Drunk at the whorehouse Posts: 2,278 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	Put them over 10 meters of shallow waters... But seriously... its just a configuration of the .sim files... they are sitted down too much on the water... and besides, that wave amplitude of 320 from GWX ruins everything... __________________ To each his own

05-05-08, 01:12 AM	#3
Reece CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Down Under Posts: 34,720 Downloads: 171 Uploads: 0	This is the sim file settings, the Surfaced draught is 0: Any ideas? __________________ *Sub captains go down with their ship!*

05-05-08, 01:18 AM	#5
Philipp_Thomsen Old Gang Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Drunk at the whorehouse Posts: 2,278 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	Increase the submerged draught to 30 and do some tests... If you get the opposite effect, then try 5... I'm pretty tired right now, so I may have spoken bullsh!t... __________________ To each his own

05-05-08, 04:11 AM	#7
Reece CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Down Under Posts: 34,720 Downloads: 171 Uploads: 0	Sounds like me on a good day Ven! __________________ *Sub captains go down with their ship!*

05-05-08, 01:18 AM	#4
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Set it to match the cfg file. This is the sinking ship bug you hear about. The sim not being fixed correctly.

05-05-08, 07:03 AM	#8
Der Teddy Bar Blade Master Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,388 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Something sinking due to heavy seas is often because a objects 'zone' has a 'Crash Depth' value specified in the Zones.cfg that is not deep enough. Crash Depth=5 specifies that when this zone is at this depth, 5 metres, then it will take on damage and thus flood. Hope this helps.

05-05-08, 08:17 AM	#9
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	I just wish the game allowed a difference between harbors and high seas. The whole point of having a "safe haven" is to have a place where your ships are, well, "safe". There should be almost no motion in a harbor, or at least much less than you find on the outside. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

05-05-08, 08:51 AM	#10
Contact Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Dover August 3 1939

05-05-08, 09:36 AM	#11
Reece CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Down Under Posts: 34,720 Downloads: 171 Uploads: 0	Well back from patrol, I only saved & exited once and patrol only lasted a few weeks, when I got back the Floating Docks had moved apart from each other and drifted a little but still afloat, previously the carrier had merged with the concrete dock slightly but was still in it's proper place this time, will have to test again later, don't know what setting you changed BBW, but may have done the job! Thanks. __________________ *Sub captains go down with their ship!*

05-05-08, 11:04 AM	#12
bigboywooly Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Swindon, England Posts: 10,151 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	The surfaced draft was set to 0 in the sim I set it as the cfg file 5 for the BUV 1 and 13 for the BUV 2 Drift into harbours is a royal PITA It would have been better for harbours to be rendered first instead its the ships They move in the sea by the time the harbours are rendered so can end up in them Could be a lot more units placed in ports ( for those that have a system to handle it ) but darent due to those issues Tis worse the longer you stay in ship render range before entering harbour rendering range __________________ My mediafire page http://www.mediafire.com/?11eoq19bq9r41