Eels detonating with no damage?

gord96 · 04-22-08, 02:19 PM

I have always played with Dud torpedoes but after having 4 dud eels in a row on a convoy attack I decided to try a patrol with it turned off just for fun.

Funny thing is a few torps would hit the target and detonate just like a hit, but i would get "torpedo missed" and there would be no damage. Its happened quite a few times now. Perhaps this is GWX 2.1 way of making sure people will always suffer from torpedo failures??

_Seth_ · 04-22-08, 02:48 PM

What year are you in? Im not sure how this is illustrated in the game, but in the beginning of the war, the torpedoes were "unstable", due to problems with the magnetic detonators (and the depth-keeping system). IRL, The kriegsmarine only conducted one (!) live test a year with the torpedoes, to see if they behaved as they should..
I always use impact settings early in the war, and speed set to fast. I also set the depth to a couple of meters above the given draft of the ship. IE; a ship with a draft at 7 meters, result in a torpedosetting at 4-5 meters. This works for me,mate!

gord96 · 04-22-08, 02:54 PM

:hmm: thanks for the info seth. its 1941. i just assumed with dud torps turned off every eel would detonate if they hit correctly or were at the proper depth. THe thing is these "strage" eels are hitting the target, or detonating underneath the target, you get the big boom, water shooting up the sides of the ship, then a "torpedo missed sir" and no damage. just have never seen it before as I always play with dud's on.

_Seth_ · 04-22-08, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by gord96

:hmm: thanks for the info seth. its 1941. i just assumed with dud torps turned off every eel would detonate if they hit correctly or were at the proper depth. THe thing is these "strage" eels are hitting the target, or detonating underneath the target, you get the big boom, water shooting up the sides of the ship, then a "torpedo missed sir" and no damage. just have never seen it before as I always play with dud's on.

That sounds like a bug to me... With duds off, you should not encounter the historical torpedo flaws.. Maybe some of the GWX mates can make this clearer to us..

3Jane · 04-22-08, 03:03 PM

I have had the same experience twice. Once in 2.0 and once in 2.1. The torpedo detonates under the ship but seems to have no effect on the ship at all. Not simply a damage/sinking model being slow to show it's self, but no effect at all. The torpedo damage graphic doesn't appear where the torpedo impacted either. Never had the experience before 2.0 and 2.1.

gord96 · 04-22-08, 03:05 PM

sounds good. not sure if this is something with GWX or not. I have never tried SH3 with Duds off before so I cant say if this was an issue pre GWX 2.1.

Lzs von swe · 04-22-08, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by gord96

:hmm: thanks for the info seth. its 1941. i just assumed with dud torps turned off every eel would detonate if they hit correctly or were at the proper depth. THe thing is these "strage" eels are hitting the target, or detonating underneath the target, you get the big boom, water shooting up the sides of the ship, then a "torpedo missed sir" and no damage. just have never seen it before as I always play with dud's on.

Are you sure there is no damage? I use magnetic pistols a lot and have the crew reporting misses when in fact the torpedoes explodes under the ship as they should. The damage is not so visually obvious but it´s there.
I have never tested the "no duds" setting so I have no experience of how it works.

gord96 · 04-22-08, 03:21 PM

oh yeah. same as 3Jane said. There is zero dmg to the ship. No blast mark, no sinking, no slowdown.

Lzs von swe · 04-22-08, 03:33 PM

:hmm: Ok, then I don´t know. When this happens to me the ship is always damaged.

Whasn´t there another thread on this a while ago:hmm:

Here http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...torpedo+missed
but it´s inconclusive...

04-22-08, 02:19 PM	#1
gord96 Commodore Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 627 Downloads: 57 Uploads: 0	Eels detonating with no damage? I have always played with Dud torpedoes but after having 4 dud eels in a row on a convoy attack I decided to try a patrol with it turned off just for fun. Funny thing is a few torps would hit the target and detonate just like a hit, but i would get "torpedo missed" and there would be no damage. Its happened quite a few times now. Perhaps this is GWX 2.1 way of making sure people will always suffer from torpedo failures??

04-22-08, 02:48 PM	#2
_Seth_ Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: In Tromsoe, @Tirpitz' final resting place.. Posts: 3,277 Downloads: 94 Uploads: 0	What year are you in? Im not sure how this is illustrated in the game, but in the beginning of the war, the torpedoes were "unstable", due to problems with the magnetic detonators (and the depth-keeping system). IRL, The kriegsmarine only conducted one (!) live test a year with the torpedoes, to see if they behaved as they should.. I always use impact settings early in the war, and speed set to fast. I also set the depth to a couple of meters above the given draft of the ship. IE; a ship with a draft at 7 meters, result in a torpedosetting at 4-5 meters. This works for me,mate! __________________

04-22-08, 03:03 PM	#5
3Jane Ace of the Deep Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: York. Northern England. Posts: 1,004 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I have had the same experience twice. Once in 2.0 and once in 2.1. The torpedo detonates under the ship but seems to have no effect on the ship at all. Not simply a damage/sinking model being slow to show it's self, but no effect at all. The torpedo damage graphic doesn't appear where the torpedo impacted either. Never had the experience before 2.0 and 2.1. __________________ Fate opposes me in vitality and morality, forced ever onward, burdened, always in shackles. So this very moment, without tarrying, pluck the quivering strings. Because fate punishes the one who plays, all lament with me. (http://hosted.filefront.com/KatherineRowan)

04-22-08, 03:33 PM	#9
Lzs von swe Ace of the Deep Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Norrkoping, Sweden Posts: 1,074 Downloads: 66 Uploads: 0	:hmm: Ok, then I don´t know. When this happens to me the ship is always damaged. Whasn´t there another thread on this a while ago:hmm: Here http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...torpedo+missed but it´s inconclusive... __________________ Last edited by Lzs von swe; 04-22-08 at 04:01 PM.

04-22-08, 02:54 PM	#3
gord96 Commodore Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 627 Downloads: 57 Uploads: 0	:hmm: thanks for the info seth. its 1941. i just assumed with dud torps turned off every eel would detonate if they hit correctly or were at the proper depth. THe thing is these "strage" eels are hitting the target, or detonating underneath the target, you get the big boom, water shooting up the sides of the ship, then a "torpedo missed sir" and no damage. just have never seen it before as I always play with dud's on.

04-22-08, 03:05 PM	#6
gord96 Commodore Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 627 Downloads: 57 Uploads: 0	sounds good. not sure if this is something with GWX or not. I have never tried SH3 with Duds off before so I cant say if this was an issue pre GWX 2.1.

04-22-08, 03:21 PM	#8
gord96 Commodore Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 627 Downloads: 57 Uploads: 0	oh yeah. same as 3Jane said. There is zero dmg to the ship. No blast mark, no sinking, no slowdown.