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Old 04-16-08, 07:13 AM   #1
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Default [REL-UBM]Kriegsmarine AOB Finder

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Old 04-16-08, 08:05 AM   #2
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Thanks for this Mod mikhayl (and the devs of it)

Again a great job from my frensh neighbour
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Old 04-16-08, 09:22 AM   #3
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Do I see the elemenets of OLC's GUI comming into SH4 ????



Now we just have to convince OLC to play SH4 and port over his entire GUI

Thanks for taking this first step. I look forward to seeing more stuff like this one.
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Old 04-16-08, 10:12 AM   #4
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One of these days I will learn how to use that piece of work!!!!!!! Thanks for getting to work in SH4 and OLC for making that puppy
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Old 04-16-08, 02:21 PM   #5
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Was there something to do the same in US boats other than the methods we have currently?
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Old 04-16-08, 02:29 PM   #6
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Well....it's a start

OK, so we're about a third of the way there. I'll be happy when everything works as in SH3. Otherwise, other targeting methods are far less cumbersome. Also the mod needs to be installable with JSGME. Good progress so far. You're not done!
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Old 05-08-08, 04:39 PM   #7
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Corrected some mistakes (sorry for the crappy previous versions), put back the default AOB dial on the notepad and tweaked the cameras file (better external view and free interior cam).
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That new version is for stock 1.5, resolution 1024*768, JSGME ready !

All credits go to Joegrundman, OLC and Hitman for the original idea/mods/graphics

files included :
-Joegrundman's .tgas for the AOB finder + bits of OLC's .tgas(slightly edited).

-stock menu.ini modified to have the AOBF when clicking on "angle on bow" on the attack scope notepad.

-stock dials.cfg with a single modification copied on OLC's GUI (commented in the file).

-stock cameras.dat file with these changes for both scopes : zoom levels 1.5x and 6x, FOV 85°.

-stock "names.cfg" file with all ships length added to read on the recon manual

-contline.dds, dashline.dd & torp.dds, which are now just an alpha channel, no more "tail" on contacts and no torpedo icon. Delete them before enabling if you want the icons back.

I suppose no much people use this stuff for SH4, so if one of you needs a specific version to be compatible with A, B or C mod, just send me your version of the files listed above, I'll apply the modifications and upload the JSGME ready version

http://files.filefront.com/AOB+Finde.../fileinfo.html
Mikhayl, I squint in your general direction, sir! This is the most important addition to the U-Boat since the release of SH4UBM! Now we can all use authentic German methods of setting up an attack. This is utterly un-American and ingenius, showing German resoucefulness in the best light! Where we had fancy mechanical computer TDC's, the Germans came up with a much simpler, more elegant system that commands admiration if we will just use it!

This a first-rate contribution to SH4UBM and I wouldn't consider the U-Boat complete without it. Take a bow sir, and quit apologizing!
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Old 05-09-08, 04:16 AM   #8
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Now we can all use authentic German methods of setting up an attack. This is utterly un-American and ingenius, showing German resoucefulness in the best light! Where we had fancy mechanical computer TDC's, the Germans came up with a much simpler, more elegant system that commands admiration if we will just use it!
This is a very nice mod, very well done by Mikhayl, but it's not the way the Germans took their AOB readings. The OLC tutorial video posted in this thread says that they used a split image horizontal stadimeter to measure relative length and therefore AOB, but they couldn't work that into SH, so they used this method instead.
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Old 05-09-08, 08:11 AM   #9
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They did have these wheels though, I suppose they could be used in "emergency" if the stadimeter didn't work, or even only to take a quick target speed reading. Hitman would sure know better, but I think these wheels may have been used on early u-boot (in Iron Coffins the author mentions two different types of attack scope mounted on the VIIC ?).
Yes they had, and they had them in fact since WW1. In the Vessikko scope you can still see the graded wiz-wheel system of the old scopes.

Werner refers in Iron coffins to two modesl of scopes, the first one is the older, classic one that goes up and down and is rotated manually. That one had the wiz-wheels externally. The second is the fixed-heigth-of-eye periscope that can be seen f.e. in the film Das Boot, where the commander sits in a saddle and operates the scope electrically, with no need to go himself up and down to his knees. This model had the same wiz-wheels and split prism system, but it was internal, being readed through the eyepiece in a partition.

Germans estimated the AOB as the americans, but mainly when being surfaced. Since the periscope makes you lose some of the depth-perception in objects, the wiz wheel served as an aid to determine AOB when doing a periscope attack.
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Old 05-09-08, 08:52 AM   #10
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Germans estimated the AOB as the americans, but mainly when being surfaced. Since the periscope makes you lose some of the depth-perception in objects, the wiz wheel served as an aid to determine AOB when doing a periscope attack.
OK, I'm confused now. What's the OLC video talking about, when he mentions a split prism horizontal stadimeter?
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Old 05-09-08, 09:17 AM   #11
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Posted a link in the UBM mods thread for this
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Old 05-09-08, 11:10 AM   #12
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OK, I'm confused now. What's the OLC video talking about, when he mentions a split prism horizontal stadimeter?
The split prism stadimeter was used first to determine the mast heigth (vertically) and then it was rotated 90º with a special handle to use it horizontally. The same split prism was used twice.
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Old 05-09-08, 11:37 AM   #13
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OK, I'm confused now. What's the OLC video talking about, when he mentions a split prism horizontal stadimeter?
The split prism stadimeter was used first to determine the mast heigth (vertically) and then it was rotated 90º with a special handle to use it horizontally. The same split prism was used twice.
OK, that's what I originally thought . Thanks for clarifying it. Do you (or anyone) happen to have any links to what the dial looked like for the German stadimeter?
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Old 05-10-08, 06:55 AM   #14
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Sure....here you go (Click on the image for larger version):

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Old 05-11-08, 08:34 AM   #15
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Hey Mikhayl

i really can't get this to download from your filefront - been trying a couple of days: could you possibly host it on mediafire too please?
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