Europeans see China as greatest global threat

[Skybird]

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/89261466-0...nclick_check=1

China has overtaken the US as the biggest threat to global stability in the eyes of Europeans, according to a Harris opinion poll for the Financial Times.
The recent wave of protests and riots in Tibet and the ensuing Chinese crackdown, together with competition from cheap Chinese exports, appear to have dramatically hardened opinion, with the proportion of Europeans who saw China as the biggest threat almost doubling since last year.
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Only inhabitants of Spain still considered the US to be a bigger threat than China, by 41 per cent to 28 per cent.
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The story of the last five years has been about economic opportunities. The story of the last six months has been about China as a threat in Darfur and in Tibet.” The little that Europeans knew about China came from news coverage, recently unfavourable, whereas they were constantly consuming US popular culture, Mr Leonard explained.

[Tchocky]

Could be more to do with the current Olympic mess (which I can barely hear over the sound of creaking bandwagons) rather than a long-term trend.
The more we trade, the better an investment stability becomes.

[Skybird]

The more we traded, the more dominant their economy became, the less they showed a will to change their policestate-methods.

Maybe we shouldn't have delivered them the knowhow and machinery to build machinery on their own that produces and overroles our own production.

[joegrundman]

China's a flawed country, as are many others, and it's flaws are none too nice either - but in what way is it a threat to global security?

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by joegrundman

China's a flawed country, as are many others, and it's flaws are none too nice either - but in what way is it a threat to global security?

THey are on a one track course to build or buy equipment that competes directly with US military hardware, and it is all capable. Couple that to the fact that they are probably willing to use it over Taiwan, and it gets worse. Their published military expenditures is about 1/4 that of the US, and that is only what they are allowing you to know. They could be spending equal money to the US on their military right now, and no one would ever know.

Basically, if you spend that kind of money, even 1/4 of it at a specific adversary in mind, you will have no problem accomplishing your goals if that adversary is spending their money on a more rounded approach.

They defintiely have the capability to stall the US Navy at this point, long enough to over0run Taiwan. They may even have enough power to take them on directly for a given time. THeir sub fleet outnumbers The US now even.

So you tell me? They sound willing to use that power for conquest at any time as well.

I think one day, China will give up on the world market and start taking over territories that it thinks is theirs. It will be pure conquest.

-S

[CaptHawkeye]

I'm so damn tired of the China sensationalism the warmongers love to spam down everyone's throats. They were saying all of the same stupid ass stuff back in the 80s when Japan's economy was out of control too. Now look, as with ALL countries, Japan's economy grew at such a rate it's bubble has EXPLODED and it's economy is stagnant and utterly impotent. At least they didn't have billions of people reliant upon the continuous growth of their sustainable infrastructure. China can barely feed its billions of inhabitants TODAY. That's why I get a kick out of all the "lawl China's economy is powa!" nonsense that I hear. Oh sure they manage to kick up a few extra hospitals and schools in the cities every now and then, but here's a hint, urban enviornments always benefit from even minimal growth. Their are plenty of rural regions in China that aren't even aware of this stuff. It's so exagerated it's hilarious.

[CaptHawkeye]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

Basically, if you spend that kind of money, even 1/4 of it at a specific adversary in mind, you will have no problem accomplishing your goals if that adversary is spending their money on a more rounded approach.

Tell that to Hitler.

They defintiely have the capability to stall the US Navy at this point, long enough to over0run Taiwan. They may even have enough power to take them on directly for a given time. THeir sub fleet outnumbers The US now even.

Oh noez, Submarines. Yeah, I mean, the entire Navy doctrine of carrier escort has only been built around the concept of an enemy who will rely upon strategic submarine attacks to neutralize US carriers. Which was the whole plan against the Soviet Union. They knew this because even in their prime the Soviets could never operate as many aircraft carriers as the US could even during its prime. For christ sake, the US operates no less than 16 nuclear aircraft carriers during peace time.

So you tell me? They sound willing to use that power for conquest at any time as well.

You tell me why China would even bother. What's a war going to get them? This is just sensationalist dishonesty. No one in the Chinese government wants war with anyone. Since their is too much to lose economically. What people keep hearing are the insane rantings of a couple of over nationalist Chinese generals.

I think one day, China will give up on the world market and start taking over territories that it thinks is theirs. It will be pure conquest.

-S

What do you think this is. Ace Combat?