There are some very sick people in the world

SUBMAN1 · 04-10-08, 01:48 PM

http://www.spiegel.de/international/...546635,00.html

No words possible for that.

Time to start a play about the Germans love for killing jews in my opinion. Its along the same lines.

-S

3Jane · 04-10-08, 02:32 PM

A sensitive issue, but hardly sick. I see no real problems with it.

SUBMAN1 · 04-10-08, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by 3Jane

A sensitive issue, but hardly sick. I see no real problems with it.

You can't be serious?

Tango589 · 04-10-08, 02:35 PM

That is in such indescribably bad taste that I almost choked on my beer. How someone can think that this is justifiable is completely beyond me.

BTW I thought it was illegal to give the nazi salute in Germany now? Perhaps I'm wrong.

Tchocky · 04-10-08, 02:56 PM

A little on the nose, although anything to get more riots in theatres is good in my book.

August · 04-10-08, 03:00 PM

Every time i think i've seen the acme of disgusting crap labled as "art" Germany proves me wrong again.

FIREWALL · 04-10-08, 03:11 PM

"One has to introduce new elements," he says. Otherwise it is difficult to attract new theater goers.

That says it all. I wonder how much a head he charges.

They rant about capitalism but, their still out there for the almighty buck also.

Useally if not always at someone elses EXPENSE.

These ASSHATS make me sick.

AVGWarhawk · 04-10-08, 03:15 PM

This looks seriously stupid. Not to mention those seniors need to get some cloths on....

Skybird · 04-10-08, 03:29 PM

Can't say I like it, but provocative and nude performances in german theatres and operas is nothing new. It's part of artistic freedom - and that includes the freedom of showing bad taste, too, which happens often in german theatre and opera productions. Where freedom usually is accepted to eventually produce conflict and critical comment, or heartbreaking, hysterically exaggerated pathos - there must be freedom for the other extreme as well. That'S what it is about, this freedom. You either take both the light and the shadow - or you are left with only the darkness.

People are also free to buy a ticket - or not. that also is a freedom. the latter is the choice I would make. Was dem einen recht ist, ist dem anderen billig: we had the Fitna movie. Now we have the arab reaction to Fitna: .

And occasionally we also have tasteless theatre perfomances like the one in Germany. All that is freedom of arts and freedom of speech. In case of needing to chose - I prefer this freedom, than to censor it.

STEED · 04-10-08, 03:43 PM

I do believe the more you rant against these people the bigger there smile. Sorry to say that, but it's true. Seen it so many times I lost count, they love to shock people and upset them while another percentage think it's cool.

Sad world we live in...................

Platapus · 04-10-08, 03:19 PM

Well that's art for you.

It does not have to appeal to everyone. I can't imagine this play being financially successful.

It is artistically successful evidently. It was meant to shock and offend, and, judging from the comments here it did.

Me? I just don't let stuff like this get to me. Life is way too short to worry about this type of stuff.

Konovalov · 04-10-08, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

Time to start a play about the Germans love for killing jews in my opinion. Its along the same lines.
-S

How puerile of you.

On the topic I do find it offensive and tacky but I see no need to follow your equally tasteless suggestion.

FIREWALL · 04-10-08, 03:17 PM

Is this why people yell FIRE in theaters ? :p

Trex · 04-10-08, 03:21 PM

I have always felt that the purpose of art is to evoke emotion. There are however three emotions exempt from that - boredom, contempt and bewilderment. This seems to hit all three.

I would be interested in finding out if this work has received any government subsidies or support. Generally, the ones who are good enough to earn a living at art (of whatever type) do so; the remainder demand public money and complain about capitalism and how unfair everything is.

Let's not waste any more of Earth's rapidly-diminishing electron resources on this sort of heiffer-dust.

SUBMAN1 · 04-10-08, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Konovalov

How puerile of you.

On the topic I do find it offensive and tacky but I see no need to follow your equally tasteless suggestion.

Exactly the reaction I was aiming for.

-S

04-10-08, 01:48 PM	#1
SUBMAN1 Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 11,866 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	There are some very sick people in the world http://www.spiegel.de/international/...546635,00.html No words possible for that. Time to start a play about the Germans love for killing jews in my opinion. Its along the same lines. -S __________________

04-10-08, 02:32 PM	#2
3Jane Ace of the Deep Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: York. Northern England. Posts: 1,004 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	A sensitive issue, but hardly sick. I see no real problems with it. __________________ Fate opposes me in vitality and morality, forced ever onward, burdened, always in shackles. So this very moment, without tarrying, pluck the quivering strings. Because fate punishes the one who plays, all lament with me. (http://hosted.filefront.com/KatherineRowan)

04-10-08, 02:35 PM	#4
Tango589 Still crazy as ever! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: A little south of sanity Posts: 3,375 Downloads: 180 Uploads: 1	That is in such indescribably bad taste that I almost choked on my beer. How someone can think that this is justifiable is completely beyond me. BTW I thought it was illegal to give the nazi salute in Germany now? Perhaps I'm wrong. __________________ Hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way...

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Tchocky Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,874 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	A little on the nose, although anything to get more riots in theatres is good in my book. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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August Wayfaring Stranger Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 23,197 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Every time i think i've seen the acme of disgusting crap labled as "art" Germany proves me wrong again. __________________ Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.

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FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	"One has to introduce new elements," he says. Otherwise it is difficult to attract new theater goers. That says it all. I wonder how much a head he charges. They rant about capitalism but, their still out there for the almighty buck also. Useally if not always at someone elses EXPENSE. These ASSHATS make me sick. __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???

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AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,255 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	This looks seriously stupid. Not to mention those seniors need to get some cloths on.... __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

04-10-08, 03:29 PM	#9
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,618 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Can't say I like it, but provocative and nude performances in german theatres and operas is nothing new. It's part of artistic freedom - and that includes the freedom of showing bad taste, too, which happens often in german theatre and opera productions. Where freedom usually is accepted to eventually produce conflict and critical comment, or heartbreaking, hysterically exaggerated pathos - there must be freedom for the other extreme as well. That'S what it is about, this freedom. You either take both the light and the shadow - or you are left with only the darkness. People are also free to buy a ticket - or not. that also is a freedom. the latter is the choice I would make. Was dem einen recht ist, ist dem anderen billig: we had the Fitna movie. Now we have the arab reaction to Fitna: . And occasionally we also have tasteless theatre perfomances like the one in Germany. All that is freedom of arts and freedom of speech. In case of needing to chose - I prefer this freedom, than to censor it. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

04-10-08, 03:43 PM	#10
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	I do believe the more you rant against these people the bigger there smile. Sorry to say that, but it's true. Seen it so many times I lost count, they love to shock people and upset them while another percentage think it's cool. Sad world we live in................... __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

04-10-08, 03:19 PM	#11
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,362 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	Well that's art for you. It does not have to appeal to everyone. I can't imagine this play being financially successful. It is artistically successful evidently. It was meant to shock and offend, and, judging from the comments here it did. Me? I just don't let stuff like this get to me. Life is way too short to worry about this type of stuff. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

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FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	Is this why people yell FIRE in theaters ? :p __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???

04-10-08, 03:21 PM	#14
Trex Lieutenant Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 262 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I have always felt that the purpose of art is to evoke emotion. There are however three emotions exempt from that - boredom, contempt and bewilderment. This seems to hit all three. I would be interested in finding out if this work has received any government subsidies or support. Generally, the ones who are good enough to earn a living at art (of whatever type) do so; the remainder demand public money and complain about capitalism and how unfair everything is. Let's not waste any more of Earth's rapidly-diminishing electron resources on this sort of heiffer-dust.