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DavyJonesFootlocker · 04-08-08, 03:12 PM

I find a Bilge Rat as a Dive Officer instead of the original officer. That don't seem right as sometimes the DO has an officer's cap. Anyway to change this?

Ducimus · 04-08-08, 03:18 PM

If i bothered to explain the design decisions involved in that, would it make a difference?

By the way, the "bildge rat" that you sometimes see with an officers cap, is a chief petty officer. In stock, they wore all kahki's with an officers cap. I changed them to kahki pants, blue shirt, and officers cap - a mix of the two so their easier to distinguish from an officer and the enlisted crewman.

DavyJonesFootlocker · 04-08-08, 03:22 PM

Yeah, it would make a difference, Duciboy.

I also find other Bilge Rats in the DO position when they relieve the watch. This time they look like deck hands. The Officer of The Deck is waaay in the back in the conning tower. Is this historically correct? I understand you made them out so they're recognizable but was this how it was?

Ducimus · 04-08-08, 03:52 PM

I did the best i could , that the confines of the game would allow.

First of all, theres only so many officers to work with on any given watch.

Secondly, given theres only so much to work with, i do not like the idea adding MORE officers or CPO's. A Top heavy crew to me is unacceptable. Then add in the fact that officers and CPO's can gain special abilities. Too many abiilties, too much efficiency. Add more officers? I don't F'ing think so! If you want a super crew, feel free to edit the subs UPC file and have an all kakhi cew for all i F'ing care, but dont expect me to do it for you!

Thirdly, The core mechanics behind crew positions are coded for uboats! There is no direct translation in the game that is the same to the needed crew positions in a fleet boat. So one is forced to shoehorn it.

Forthly, i had little choice on what to put in the DO's position since i moved the OOD to the conning tower. Since the OOD is what allows controls to the subs navigation and such, It made less sense to me to have a swabbie up in the conning tower then a Petty officer as a diving officer. Also, the CT had a couple officers in it historicallyl, so I had to make a choice between the two, guess which one went with?!

Fifthly, nobodies making you use the mod. If you don't like it, change it yourself, or use another mod and stop wasting my time.

John Channing · 04-08-08, 03:57 PM

Allow me to open this door and allow a nice cool breeze in here.

Ahhhhhhh... that's better. I am sure everyone is much cooler and calmer now.

Don't thank me... it's all part of the service.

JCC

Dowly · 04-08-08, 04:14 PM

Easy there Duc!

The man's just curious why you made it the way it is.

Ducimus · 04-08-08, 04:15 PM

The only thing further i care to add to this thread, is that there is a reason why the CPO in the control room crew is who takes the DO position during battle stations. It was an asthetical compromise, because.. could it be... i was very well aware of what i was putting in the diving officer position?

Nahhhh.. no way, i just hap hazzardly place crewman willy nilly without much forethought. :rotfl:

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Originally Posted by Dowly

Easy there Duc!

The man's just curious why you made it the way it is.

Looks more like im being called out to me. If theres sarchasm involved, im not seeing it.

Jimbuna · 04-08-08, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DavyJonesFootlocker

I find a Bilge Rat as a Dive Officer instead of the original officer. That don't seem right as sometimes the DO has an officer's cap. Anyway to change this?

I've had a look on my install and see no resemblance to any 'bilge rat' as you put it

04-08-08, 03:12 PM	#1
DavyJonesFootlocker The Old Man Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Stink Drunk in Trinidad Posts: 1,572 Downloads: 138 Uploads: 0	Bilge Rat as Dive Officer? I find a Bilge Rat as a Dive Officer instead of the original officer. That don't seem right as sometimes the DO has an officer's cap. Anyway to change this? __________________ "Silence means death. Stand on your feet. Inner fear your worst enemy."- Sepultura. My Silent Hunter 5 mantra is this......"Torpedo missed, sir!" A P-400 is a P-40 with a Zero after it. A proud member of the Wikipedia Haters Club Last edited by Kapitan_Phillips; 04-08-08 at 06:03 PM.

04-08-08, 03:22 PM	#3
DavyJonesFootlocker The Old Man Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Stink Drunk in Trinidad Posts: 1,572 Downloads: 138 Uploads: 0	Yeah, it would make a difference, Duciboy. I also find other Bilge Rats in the DO position when they relieve the watch. This time they look like deck hands. The Officer of The Deck is waaay in the back in the conning tower. Is this historically correct? I understand you made them out so they're recognizable but was this how it was? __________________ "Silence means death. Stand on your feet. Inner fear your worst enemy."- Sepultura. My Silent Hunter 5 mantra is this......"Torpedo missed, sir!" A P-400 is a P-40 with a Zero after it. A proud member of the Wikipedia Haters Club

04-08-08, 03:18 PM	#2
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	If i bothered to explain the design decisions involved in that, would it make a difference? By the way, the "bildge rat" that you sometimes see with an officers cap, is a chief petty officer. In stock, they wore all kahki's with an officers cap. I changed them to kahki pants, blue shirt, and officers cap - a mix of the two so their easier to distinguish from an officer and the enlisted crewman.

04-08-08, 03:52 PM	#4
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	I did the best i could , that the confines of the game would allow. First of all, theres only so many officers to work with on any given watch. Secondly, given theres only so much to work with, i do not like the idea adding MORE officers or CPO's. A Top heavy crew to me is unacceptable. Then add in the fact that officers and CPO's can gain special abilities. Too many abiilties, too much efficiency. Add more officers? I don't F'ing think so! If you want a super crew, feel free to edit the subs UPC file and have an all kakhi cew for all i F'ing care, but dont expect me to do it for you! Thirdly, The core mechanics behind crew positions are coded for uboats! There is no direct translation in the game that is the same to the needed crew positions in a fleet boat. So one is forced to shoehorn it. Forthly, i had little choice on what to put in the DO's position since i moved the OOD to the conning tower. Since the OOD is what allows controls to the subs navigation and such, It made less sense to me to have a swabbie up in the conning tower then a Petty officer as a diving officer. Also, the CT had a couple officers in it historicallyl, so I had to make a choice between the two, guess which one went with?! Fifthly, nobodies making you use the mod. If you don't like it, change it yourself, or use another mod and stop wasting my time.

04-08-08, 03:57 PM	#5
John Channing Sea Lord Join Date: Sep 1998 Posts: 1,846 Downloads: 163 Uploads: 5	Allow me to open this door and allow a nice cool breeze in here. Ahhhhhhh... that's better. I am sure everyone is much cooler and calmer now. Don't thank me... it's all part of the service. JCC

04-08-08, 04:14 PM	#6
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,053 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Easy there Duc! The man's just curious why you made it the way it is.