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Khourieat · 04-02-08, 11:32 AM

Greetings! Probably won't remember me but I was the guy playing SH3 without any mods about a year ago :rotfl:

Recently bought SH4 (just arrived yesterday actually) and wanted to reacquaint myself with everyone, plus toss up some questions while I was at it.

I noticed the supported video cards are from the time of release, and I've checked to see if they've updated that but never seen a different list, are newer cards going to crash my game? I'm using a GeForce 8800GT, I've only done the first training mission so far, and it sure looked gorgeous, but want to make sure I'm not going to run into any issues later.

Which leads to my second question, and I could probably google this one but I didn't see it in the keyboard pamphlet deal, how do I set my boat back on course after a manual deviation? Is there a return to course somewhere? I didn't see one.

Lastly, in regard to the missions in the campaign, it sounds like they'll have actual mission types, whereas in SH3 they'd just send you somewhere to patrol an empty plot of sea, devoid of any ships but you. Will there be targets to sink in these missions, or do people still patrol off on their own after the mission is accomplished to get some tonnage in?

I'm still adjusting to the new layout, found it funny that even after a year my hands would instinctively reach for SH3 shortcuts. At least I think it's a new layout, I remember the space bar being for locking on to a target, and enter being for firing...I almost fired at a destroyer in the first training mission, heck of a way to graduate submariner school

Anyways, hello all! Happy hunting

Nisgeis · 04-02-08, 11:39 AM

I don't know of any issues with the nVidia cards.

The return to course option is a button in the map section of the control bar.

Rockin Robbins · 04-02-08, 11:45 AM

There is a way to have the Trigger Maru Keyboard layout, which is very close to the old SH3 layout. Just click the magic link and download. I've added shift-i as crewman identify target. I like it better because the attack screen is mapped to F6. That alone makes the SH3 layout superior to the SH4.

If you get tired of SH4 running so fast on that 8800GT I'll be glad to trade you even for a 7600GT or a 7900GS, your choice!:rotfl:Other than that obscenely too-high framerate, your card will do fine. Just let me know if you get tired of it.

In the Trigger Maru keyboard, ctrl-r is return to course. You have to find the button in the normal layout.

In my first half-dozen cruises I got the "deliver agent to Delian" four times. I loved it because I was usually out of torpedoes before I got to the dropoff. I finally ignored opportunities on the way and just killed them on the way back. Most missions are the same. There are plenty of targets to and from the mission and you don't have to go out of your way too much.

Welcome to American boats: the limosines of the Pacific. Learn to use the ice cream maker and enjoy the air conditioning.

Khourieat · 04-02-08, 12:06 PM

Hahah no, this is a brand new system, I won't be trading it anytime soon :p But I'm happy to hear I won't have problems, either, I was afraid I'd have to return the game, and that'd be shame since I got it for such a good price.

AC? AC?!? Blah, real men don't use AC! The hotter the better, and besides, it's better then the cold, dark depths.

Hmmm I'm going to have to take a second look for that return to course thing, I could've sworn I didn't see it in the keyboard layout map or the in game menu, but it was late so I probably just missed it.

Thanks for the help guys! Looking forward to getting a campaign started and giving the Pacific a go.

Factor · 04-02-08, 12:55 PM

The AC is'nt meant for you anyway, it's to keep the electrical equipment cool.

peabody · 04-02-08, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockin Robbins

If you get tired of SH4 running so fast on that 8800GT I'll be glad to trade you even for a 7600GT or a 7900GS, your choice!:rotfl:Other than that obscenely too-high framerate, your card will do fine. Just let me know if you get tired of it.

I'll go one better, I have a 7600GS, that will get you down to safe speed so you don't hurt yourself.:rotfl: And you won't have to waste all that time installing MODS 'cause they won't run over 17fps. I'm just looking out for your safety!!
If you don't mind me asking what brand do you have? I was looking at an 8800GTS: EVGA at $114 and an MSI at $119 (after rebate) but I am not familiar with either brand.

Peabody

Khourieat · 04-02-08, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by peabody

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Originally Posted by Rockin Robbins

If you get tired of SH4 running so fast on that 8800GT I'll be glad to trade you even for a 7600GT or a 7900GS, your choice!:rotfl:Other than that obscenely too-high framerate, your card will do fine. Just let me know if you get tired of it.

I'll go one better, I have a 7600GS, that will get you down to safe speed so you don't hurt yourself.:rotfl: And you won't have to waste all that time installing MODS 'cause they won't run over 17fps. I'm just looking out for your safety!!
If you don't mind me asking what brand do you have? I was looking at an 8800GTS: EVGA at $114 and an MSI at $119 (after rebate) but I am not familiar with either brand.

Peabody

I have an 8800GT, not GTS, in my opinion the best performance for each $ you can get, you can spend more, sure, but you won't get that much more out of it (IE, if a card costs 50% more, I doubt it'll give you 50% more performance to boot). At least from the research I did on cards before I built this system, which granted wasn't THAT extensive, but I poked around, and I'll trade $250 for a 6 FPS loss any day

As far as brands, I don't know that much either! I got an EVGA from newegg, they had a nice overclocked model I liked, no work for me, barely cost more then the base price and had good reviews, my motherboard was EVGA also though so that's part of the reason as well. But I've heard great things from both EVGA and BFG as far as brands go, and I just read on gamespot they were using an XFX to test a new 9 series card, so they should be all good brands.

I'd check up the different brands on newegg and check the ratings

Khourieat · 04-03-08, 01:24 PM

Well, I'm off to a good start. Left port at Pearl, headed for Japanese water, was sunk by first airplane to drop a bomb...didn't even see any kind of merchant shipping...

Uzzar · 04-03-08, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Khourieat

Well, I'm off to a good start. Left port at Pearl, headed for Japanese water, was sunk by first airplane to drop a bomb...didn't even see any kind of merchant shipping...

I'm new to SH4 (ver 1.4) too, and the first thing I had to do was adjust the enemy planes. You can use notepad to edit the file called Aircraft.cfg in the CFG folder. I know that it's not as realistic to cut down the air traffic significantly, but it allows me to get to the fun parts more quickly (and that's what I play for).

04-02-08, 11:32 AM	#1
Khourieat Helmsman Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: NYC, USA Posts: 110 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Back in action Greetings! Probably won't remember me but I was the guy playing SH3 without any mods about a year ago :rotfl: Recently bought SH4 (just arrived yesterday actually) and wanted to reacquaint myself with everyone, plus toss up some questions while I was at it. I noticed the supported video cards are from the time of release, and I've checked to see if they've updated that but never seen a different list, are newer cards going to crash my game? I'm using a GeForce 8800GT, I've only done the first training mission so far, and it sure looked gorgeous, but want to make sure I'm not going to run into any issues later. Which leads to my second question, and I could probably google this one but I didn't see it in the keyboard pamphlet deal, how do I set my boat back on course after a manual deviation? Is there a return to course somewhere? I didn't see one. Lastly, in regard to the missions in the campaign, it sounds like they'll have actual mission types, whereas in SH3 they'd just send you somewhere to patrol an empty plot of sea, devoid of any ships but you. Will there be targets to sink in these missions, or do people still patrol off on their own after the mission is accomplished to get some tonnage in? I'm still adjusting to the new layout, found it funny that even after a year my hands would instinctively reach for SH3 shortcuts. At least I think it's a new layout, I remember the space bar being for locking on to a target, and enter being for firing...I almost fired at a destroyer in the first training mission, heck of a way to graduate submariner school Anyways, hello all! Happy hunting

04-02-08, 11:45 AM	#3
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,900 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	Welcome! There is a way to have the Trigger Maru Keyboard layout, which is very close to the old SH3 layout. Just click the magic link and download. I've added shift-i as crewman identify target. I like it better because the attack screen is mapped to F6. That alone makes the SH3 layout superior to the SH4. If you get tired of SH4 running so fast on that 8800GT I'll be glad to trade you even for a 7600GT or a 7900GS, your choice!:rotfl:Other than that obscenely too-high framerate, your card will do fine. Just let me know if you get tired of it. In the Trigger Maru keyboard, ctrl-r is return to course. You have to find the button in the normal layout. In my first half-dozen cruises I got the "deliver agent to Delian" four times. I loved it because I was usually out of torpedoes before I got to the dropoff. I finally ignored opportunities on the way and just killed them on the way back. Most missions are the same. There are plenty of targets to and from the mission and you don't have to go out of your way too much. Welcome to American boats: the limosines of the Pacific. Learn to use the ice cream maker and enjoy the air conditioning. __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS

04-03-08, 01:24 PM	#8
Khourieat Helmsman Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: NYC, USA Posts: 110 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Quickest career ever Well, I'm off to a good start. Left port at Pearl, headed for Japanese water, was sunk by first airplane to drop a bomb...didn't even see any kind of merchant shipping...

04-02-08, 11:39 AM	#2
Nisgeis Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,909 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 11	I don't know of any issues with the nVidia cards. The return to course option is a button in the map section of the control bar.

04-02-08, 12:06 PM	#4
Khourieat Helmsman Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: NYC, USA Posts: 110 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Hahah no, this is a brand new system, I won't be trading it anytime soon :p But I'm happy to hear I won't have problems, either, I was afraid I'd have to return the game, and that'd be shame since I got it for such a good price. AC? AC?!? Blah, real men don't use AC! The hotter the better, and besides, it's better then the cold, dark depths. Hmmm I'm going to have to take a second look for that return to course thing, I could've sworn I didn't see it in the keyboard layout map or the in game menu, but it was late so I probably just missed it. Thanks for the help guys! Looking forward to getting a campaign started and giving the Pacific a go.

04-02-08, 12:55 PM	#5
Factor Weps Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: North Carolina Posts: 356 Downloads: 180 Uploads: 0	The AC is'nt meant for you anyway, it's to keep the electrical equipment cool.