Finished with SH4 (Just kidding!)

[Dmsdmullins]

After nearly a year of patching, reinstalling, searching forums, and tweaking settings on two different computers, with no sucsess, I am finished with SH4. In my opinion, this is the worst written, most unstable game Ive ever bought. Ive contacted Ubi for a refund but based on there past track record concerning SH4 and other game support, not only with me but with literally hundreds and hundreds of other people using their products, I have serious doubts that my request will even be acknowledged much less granted. I have no doubt some people have little or no trouble with the game but based on the days and days of researching forums here, at ubi techsupport, and countless others, Ive concluded that the game is a completely defective product. I know some people would argue my points some to no end and I respectfully consider their oppinions of value but this Im afraid has worn my patience to the end. Just my two cents...

[kylesplanet]

Originally Posted by Dmsdmullins

After nearly a year of patching, reinstalling, searching forums, and tweaking settings on two different computers, with no sucsess, I am finished with SH4. In my opinion, this is the worst written, most unstable game Ive ever bought. Ive contacted Ubi for a refund but based on there past track record concerning SH4 and other game support, not only with me but with literally hundreds and hundreds of other people using their products, I have serious doubts that my request will even be acknowledged much less granted. I have no doubt some people have little or no trouble with the game but based on the days and days of researching forums here, at ubi techsupport, and countless others, Ive concluded that the game is a completely defective product. I know some people would argue my points some to no end and I respectfully consider their oppinions of value but this Im afraid has worn my patience to the end. Just my two cents...

If you would tell us the problem we might be able to help. There are lots of good people here.

[Quillan]

Well, I understand your frustration, though I disagree with your opinion. I've personally seen far worse in the way of unfinished or buggy games, and have few problems with this one. I don't understand why you feel the need to make your single post here stating that you're giving up on the game, but good luck to you with other games in the future.

[howler93]

I would be one of those that would be inclined to argue, but instead, I'll just say that I'm sorry SH4 was unable to deliver for you Allow me to suggest the Opposing Fronts expansion for Company of Heroes (If you're looking for another game). Very stable, no mods or tweaks needed... If you ever decide to give SH4 another go, we'll be here to help however we can

Cheers,
Howler

[rik007]

People in this forum are very willing but if your first and only post is that you had it with SH4 that is obviously impossible. Good luck!

[Dmsdmullins]

My troubles are relentless crashing in the game... Ive researched threads of people with the same or simillar troubles on this site and probably all the others, made the updates, edits, and tweaks as advised and suggjested. The crashes are relentless, often after a crash the game will continue to crash when trying to go back to a save point requiring me to either start a mission from scratch or reinstall the game and all the updates. I realize this being my first post that it may appear I have given up with little effort, but im passive by nature and I assure you Im fairly literate with the nature of software and computers and have spent due time researching, updating, tweaking, editing, and reinstalling to fix the issues. I really love the game, or the short amounts of time that I get to play it, but time is money and Ive spent an incredibly rediculous amount of time trying to fix, in my opinion, defective software. Dont mean to rant, just want to share my expierence for others who are having simillar problems with no resolve.

[Dmsdmullins]

btw, can anyone recomend another subsim game?

[miner1436]

Can you post your system specs?

[jdkbph]

Originally Posted by Dmsdmullins

btw, can anyone recomend another subsim game?

Well, you see, there's the rub... and why we swallow... errrr... put up with so much "nonsense" from companies like UBI. The sub sim cupboard is unfortunately quite bare.

There's SH3... but that's another UBI product. After that you're left with a half baked WWI sim (Shells of Fury) and a few decent modern era sims - Dangerous Waters and Sub Command - neither of which can match the visual splendor of SH4, but both good in their own right.

As to your SH4 woes...

With all due respect to your computer skills and experience, one of the things that struck me about this game is that it is surprisingly processor (both CPU and GPU) intensive... far more so than the quality or visual impact of the graphics might suggest. This leads to some rather uncommon issues, such as heat problems and power problems, that while not a problem in many other (seemingly more taxing games), will manifest as graphics artifacts, GPFs, and even hard lock ups in this game.

Now you haven't given us anything to work with... so I'll assume you're running a fairly typical configuration (ie, not running WINE or Windows emulation on a Mac ), and that you've gone through your event logs, done driver and DX updates, tried disabling AV temporarily, verified adequate drive space for your page file, checked your memory timings, and all the standard troubleshooting stuff... so this is just a shot in the dark. But if you havent already you may want to try to troubleshoot specifically for these two potential issues and see if you can't isolate the cause of your problem.

Good luck.

JD

[XLjedi]

Originally Posted by Dmsdmullins

btw, can anyone recomend another subsim game?

Well... Silent Hunter 3

Actually, it's much less the headache I think. Seems to be pretty stable under it's last patch and the GWX modders have made it something extra-special.

On SH4; can't say that I can blame ya. We buy games for recreation and fun, not as an alternative to an online degree in system configuration and trouble shooting.

I do have a hard time defending something that has (for me) delivered a good deal of frustration, disappointment and misery. In the end, eventually, painfully... it does work and can even be fun to play. I just shouldn't have to work so hard at it.

I guess we're all just content to sigh and concede that it's the price we have to pay to play sub/naval sims.

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by Dmsdmullins

After nearly a year of patching, reinstalling, searching forums, and tweaking settings on two different computers, with no sucsess, I am finished with SH4. In my opinion, this is the worst written, most unstable game Ive ever bought. Ive contacted Ubi for a refund but based on there past track record concerning SH4 and other game support, not only with me but with literally hundreds and hundreds of other people using their products, I have serious doubts that my request will even be acknowledged much less granted. I have no doubt some people have little or no trouble with the game but based on the days and days of researching forums here, at ubi techsupport, and countless others, Ive concluded that the game is a completely defective product. I know some people would argue my points some to no end and I respectfully consider their oppinions of value but this Im afraid has worn my patience to the end. Just my two cents...

Okay.

[flag4]

Originally Posted by Dmsdmullins

After nearly a year of patching, reinstalling, searching forums, and tweaking settings on two different computers, with no sucsess, I am finished with SH4. In my opinion, this is the worst written, most unstable game Ive ever bought. Ive contacted Ubi for a refund but based on there past track record concerning SH4 and other game support, not only with me but with literally hundreds and hundreds of other people using their products, I have serious doubts that my request will even be acknowledged much less granted. I have no doubt some people have little or no trouble with the game but based on the days and days of researching forums here, at ubi techsupport, and countless others, Ive concluded that the game is a completely defective product. I know some people would argue my points some to no end and I respectfully consider their oppinions of value but this Im afraid has worn my patience to the end. Just my two cents...

im no wizz, but i would say, put sh4 away, remove all elements of it from your system: clean uninstall.

play something else for a while and come back to it - forget about it even, for months and months

read this book:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Silent-Victo...7240188&sr=1-3

to keep you going with the interest you obviously have, dont throw it away or put a hammer through it !!

.........and return when the heat's gone off.

i struggled with sh3 when i started - turned out it was a graphics card issue + not enough memory. but i would'nt have known that back then coz i aint no wizz - took me ages to get it right, but i didnt give up.....

i completely understand the maddening rage it can cause when it f*&^%$ -up.
dont give up if you love it.