Photo recon help

clayp · 03-13-08, 10:14 PM

I have been tasked with sneaking into Hiroshima harbor and doing a photo recon....I'm in the harbor(5' under the keel) and no matter where I go or do the take photo button wont come on..What do I do?
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seaniam81 · 03-13-08, 10:33 PM

you just have to lock onto the ships in the harbour and then take the picture

clayp · 03-14-08, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by seaniam81

you just have to lock onto the ships in the harbour and then take the picture

There are no ships in the harbor....

seafarer · 03-14-08, 09:20 AM

Is this stock SH4? If so, I found that a number of times - nothing to lock onto to get my required photo's to finish the mission. That's one of the reasons I very quickly went to the major game play mods (TM and RSRD in my case) - to get rid of the photo missions altogether. Aside from being ridiculously unrealistic, they often just cannot be completed anyway.

You can either hang around hoping something shows up, or sail on out and get back to hunting and sinking enemy ships. You won't get credit for the photo mission, but you'll still get renown and credit for a successful cruise if you go off on your own.

clayp · 03-14-08, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by seafarer

Is this stock SH4? If so, I found that a number of times - nothing to lock onto to get my required photo's to finish the mission. That's one of the reasons I very quickly went to the major game play mods (TM and RSRD in my case) - to get rid of the photo missions altogether. Aside from being ridiculously unrealistic, they often just cannot be completed anyway.

I have TM Overhauled...So do I just quit and start another career because this one cant be compleated???

ReallyDedPoet · 03-14-08, 09:28 AM

You could leave the harbor, hopefully sink some tonnage elsewhere, then return to see if there are some ships in the harbor. This is another aspect where SH4 differs from SH3, the harbors are dynamic so the shipping in them can change.

RDP

maerean_m · 04-13-08, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by clayp

I have TM Overhauled...So do I just quit and start another career because this one cant be compleated???

SH4 accepts the situation when the player returns to base without completing all the objectives. You'll just have a lower rating patrol, that's all.

Larrywb57 · 08-05-17, 08:21 PM

If memory serves me right, your submarine has to be on the star with the picture of the camera and your periscope locked on the enemy ship before you're able to take a picture. Or that's the way it was in TMO.

scrapser · 04-12-08, 08:30 PM

Okay...this one is my fault. It turns out you need to be close enough for your crew to give a "Ship Spotted" alert for the camera to work. I'm not sure if night or day matters but I would assume it should. Anyway...it's working for me.

Delfi · 04-21-17, 02:34 AM

Same mission. I got in, photoed the Hiryu, and sank her. Now I am trying to get out alive as now there are destroyers patrolling that were not there before with sonar sets that that can hear a pin drop on the moon!

Aktungbby · 04-21-17, 12:52 PM

Delfi!

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propbeanie · 04-21-17, 03:36 PM

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vamac53 · 08-01-17, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by clayp

I have been tasked with sneaking into Hiroshima harbor and doing a photo recon....I'm in the harbor(5' under the keel) and no matter where I go or do the take photo button wont come on..What do I do?
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i'm in harbor. locked on to large composite. 800 yds away. camera tab wont light up W T F

THEBERBSTER · 08-01-17, 11:47 AM

Hi guys
Photo recon is a known bug for not working in the stock game.
Webster fixed it in his GFO mega mod.

Photo recon when working can be quite subtle and not as direct as you may think.
Photo recon will be based on 1 ship IIRC and the ship you think it is may not be the one.
It might even be behind you and not directly inside the harbor.

Do not forget that you need to lock the target first before you see the icon light up.
Peter

propbeanie · 08-01-17, 12:38 PM

... and worst of all, you won't see much of a change sometimes when the light does light up. So lock on a target (as THEBERBSTER says), just like you're going to shoot a torpedo at it, but instead you are just going to take a picture. Click on the button whether it appears to be lit up or not. It just might work...

Most of the missions in stock do work, but can be finicky (besides being beyond fantasy on a few of them). You have to make a note as to what your instructions are from the orders before you go, since there will sometimes be a clue as to what you're supposed to take a picture of (if not naming a specific ship), and possibly when to do it date-wise. Here's what you probably got for Hiroshima:

Intelligence has requested a update on the enemy presence in Hiroshima harbor. Recon the area and, if possible, infiltrate the anchorage and photograph any enemy ships encountered.

So you can basically take a picture of anything "enemy" at just about any time frame. Some of the missions that don't work, are missing their "target" ship(s). But some of them, the "target" ship(s) are hidden behind other ships, and you just have to go in a little further, or perhaps in a slightly different direction to get them locked into your periscope.

Digging a little deeper into this particular mission, just as an example of how "they" do it, here's a picture from the Mission Editor of this particular "Mission", with the Map Zone Properties page open:

Notice how there are no ships in the mission itself? Only a map zone, and it is 7km in size. Your boat has to be within that circle. The "target" ship has to be within that circle. There does not appear to be a minimum number of pictures to take, just 35 points worth, so a big ship should be enough points for the Objective. Now, where do those "target" ships come from? Why, the game, of course. With just the Jap Harbor Traffic layer added into the mission:

Each of those little yellow squares is at least one ship. Granted, not all of them will be there at one time, since they might only spawn 35% of the time, or maybe 75% of the time. But generally speaking, you should have at least one third to one half of those yellow boxes as ships when you get in there. You can see though, that you do have to get in kind of close. Notice though that the BB and DD to the left of the circle are OUTSIDE the circle and would not count as "targets"...

This is where a photo mission into Hiroshima Harbor most likely was never requested of a submarine. That is a ~LONG~ way into that area, in mostly shallow water, basically infested with patrols and other ships... But it can be fun to try to do it... Just don't try this in TMO or FotRSU where you'd probably run into either a minefield or an anti-submarine net at least once on the way into there...

03-13-08, 10:14 PM	#1
clayp The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,554 Downloads: 340 Uploads: 0	Photo recon help I have been tasked with sneaking into Hiroshima harbor and doing a photo recon....I'm in the harbor(5' under the keel) and no matter where I go or do the take photo button wont come on..What do I do? __________________ __________________ clayp

03-13-08, 10:33 PM	#2
seaniam81 Commodore Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 624 Downloads: 87 Uploads: 0	you just have to lock onto the ships in the harbour and then take the picture __________________ Ultima ratio regum. (The final argument of kings) - Inscription on french cannons, on order of Louis XIV

03-14-08, 09:20 AM	#4
seafarer Commodore Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 622 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Is this stock SH4? If so, I found that a number of times - nothing to lock onto to get my required photo's to finish the mission. That's one of the reasons I very quickly went to the major game play mods (TM and RSRD in my case) - to get rid of the photo missions altogether. Aside from being ridiculously unrealistic, they often just cannot be completed anyway. You can either hang around hoping something shows up, or sail on out and get back to hunting and sinking enemy ships. You won't get credit for the photo mission, but you'll still get renown and credit for a successful cruise if you go off on your own. __________________ My Father's ship, HMCS Waskesiu (K330), sank U257 on 02/24/1944 running SHIII-1.4 with GWX2.1 and SHIV-1.5 with TMO/RSRDC/PE3.3 under MS Vista Home Premium 32-bit SP1 ACER AMD Athlon 64x2 4800+, 4GB DDR2 RAM, 400GB SATA HD Antec TruePower Trio 650watt PSU BFG GeForce 8800GT/OC 512MB VRAM, Samsung 216BW widescreen (1680x1050) LCD

03-14-08, 09:28 AM	#6
ReallyDedPoet Canadian Wolf Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canada. The one and only, East Coast Posts: 10,885 Downloads: 946 Uploads: 5	You could leave the harbor, hopefully sink some tonnage elsewhere, then return to see if there are some ships in the harbor. This is another aspect where SH4 differs from SH3, the harbors are dynamic so the shipping in them can change. RDP __________________ Back in the Day

08-05-17, 08:21 PM	#8
Larrywb57 Ensign Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: NC Posts: 228 Downloads: 389 Uploads: 0	If memory serves me right, your submarine has to be on the star with the picture of the camera and your periscope locked on the enemy ship before you're able to take a picture. Or that's the way it was in TMO. __________________ Win 10 64-bit│AMD Ryzen 3 1200 Quad-Core Processor 16.0GB Ram│ NVIDO GeForce GTX 650

04-12-08, 08:30 PM	#9
scrapser Captain Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 530 Downloads: 12 Uploads: 0	Okay...this one is my fault. It turns out you need to be close enough for your crew to give a "Ship Spotted" alert for the camera to work. I'm not sure if night or day matters but I would assume it should. Anyway...it's working for me. __________________ Gaming Computer Specs: CM Stacker 930 DFI LP UT X58-T3eH8 i7 920 CPU TR 120 Extreme HS (lapped) 6 GB OCZ Platinum 1600 (8x175 = 1400) BFG GTX 295 Silverstone DA1000W PSU Sony GDM-FW900 24" Wide Screen CRT WinXP Pro 32-bit

04-21-17, 02:34 AM	#10
Delfi Sailor man Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Below the thermocline Posts: 45 Downloads: 74 Uploads: 0	Same mission. I got in, photoed the Hiryu, and sank her. Now I am trying to get out alive as now there are destroyers patrolling that were not there before with sonar sets that that can hear a pin drop on the moon!

04-21-17, 12:52 PM	#11
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04-21-17, 03:36 PM	#12
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 10,098 Downloads: 451 Uploads: 2	Here ya go, Delfi, my "Welcome Gift" to you: I just saw a post from Neal from back in like 2008 that has the grim reaper necromancing a thread, coming out of the grave, but I can't find that one... Info around here never gets old... - Just don't go to the moon where those DD can hear you! __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayers" - Jimbuna

08-01-17, 11:47 AM	#14
THEBERBSTER Growing Old Disgracefully Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Hythe - Southampton Posts: 9,609 Downloads: 1133 Uploads: 0	Hi guys Photo recon is a known bug for not working in the stock game. Webster fixed it in his GFO mega mod. Photo recon when working can be quite subtle and not as direct as you may think. Photo recon will be based on 1 ship IIRC and the ship you think it is may not be the one. It might even be behind you and not directly inside the harbor. Do not forget that you need to lock the target first before you see the icon light up. Peter __________________ LSH3-2015 <> TUTORIALS <> ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW <> ALL IN ONE PLACE SH4 <> TUTORIALS <> HOW TO DO IT <> INFORMATION <> DOWNLOAD LINKS SH5 <> TUTORIALS <> HOW TO DO IT <> INFORMATION <> DOWNLOAD LINKS Always Here To Help A Fellow 'Subber' \| Need An Answer to A Question Just Send Me A PM

08-01-17, 12:38 PM	#15
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 10,098 Downloads: 451 Uploads: 2	... and worst of all, you won't see much of a change sometimes when the light does light up. So lock on a target (as THEBERBSTER says), just like you're going to shoot a torpedo at it, but instead you are just going to take a picture. Click on the button whether it appears to be lit up or not. It just might work... Most of the missions in stock do work, but can be finicky (besides being beyond fantasy on a few of them). You have to make a note as to what your instructions are from the orders before you go, since there will sometimes be a clue as to what you're supposed to take a picture of (if not naming a specific ship), and possibly when to do it date-wise. Here's what you probably got for Hiroshima: Intelligence has requested a update on the enemy presence in Hiroshima harbor. Recon the area and, if possible, infiltrate the anchorage and photograph any enemy ships encountered. So you can basically take a picture of anything "enemy" at just about any time frame. Some of the missions that don't work, are missing their "target" ship(s). But some of them, the "target" ship(s) are hidden behind other ships, and you just have to go in a little further, or perhaps in a slightly different direction to get them locked into your periscope. Digging a little deeper into this particular mission, just as an example of how "they" do it, here's a picture from the Mission Editor of this particular "Mission", with the Map Zone Properties page open: Notice how there are no ships in the mission itself? Only a map zone, and it is 7km in size. Your boat has to be within that circle. The "target" ship has to be within that circle. There does not appear to be a minimum number of pictures to take, just 35 points worth, so a big ship should be enough points for the Objective. Now, where do those "target" ships come from? Why, the game, of course. With just the Jap Harbor Traffic layer added into the mission: Each of those little yellow squares is at least one ship. Granted, not all of them will be there at one time, since they might only spawn 35% of the time, or maybe 75% of the time. But generally speaking, you should have at least one third to one half of those yellow boxes as ships when you get in there. You can see though, that you do have to get in kind of close. Notice though that the BB and DD to the left of the circle are OUTSIDE the circle and would not count as "targets"... This is where a photo mission into Hiroshima Harbor most likely was never requested of a submarine. That is a ~LONG~ way into that area, in mostly shallow water, basically infested with patrols and other ships... But it can be fun to try to do it... Just don't try this in TMO or FotRSU where you'd probably run into either a minefield or an anti-submarine net at least once on the way into there... __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayers" - Jimbuna