Can't believe I agree with the ACLU on this:

DeepIron · 02-04-08, 04:19 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/02/04/f...ics/index.html

The ACLU's Steinhardt doesn't believe it will stop there.
"This had started out being a program to track or identify criminals," he said. "Now we're talking about large swaths of the population -- workers, volunteers in youth programs. Eventually, it's going to be everybody."

I hate the premise that I will feel safer because of this. Heck, the US can't even stop uneducated illegals from entering the country...

SUBMAN1 · 02-04-08, 04:50 PM

I rarely agree with them too - but I'm against this as well. THough the FBI already has my prints (A requirement for my CPP permit), this is BS.

-S

mrbeast · 02-04-08, 05:09 PM

Think I agree with the comments posted here already.

In the UK at least one high ranking police officer said that there should be national database of everyone's DNA! Think such ideas are crazy. Theres already trouble over the police keeping DNA samples from people who have been stopped but were not charged or were found not guilty in court.

I think some law enforcement organisations in the US and the UK lose sight of the whole reason for their existance i.e. the protection of the individual, not the pursuit of the guilty at any and all costs.

DeepIron · 02-04-08, 05:26 PM

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THough the FBI already has my prints (A requirement for my CPP permit), this is BS.

Yeah, mine are on record for my Hazman CDL endorsement... but as you say, the rest is BS...

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I think some law enforcement organisations in the US and the UK lose sight of the whole reason for their existance i.e. the protection of the individual, not the pursuit of the guilty at any and all costs.

Well spoken Sir!

Tchocky · 02-04-08, 06:23 PM

DHS has plenty of my prints on file. Printed over 20 times now, index and full spread. Bleh.

August · 02-04-08, 08:37 PM

I don't necessarily disagree with you fellows in principle but how about giving us some scenarios where these databases could actually hurt the law abiding?

Please don't include mistaken identity cases as that can happen just as easily without the database as with...

Kapitan_Phillips · 02-05-08, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

I rarely agree with them too - but I'm against this as well. THough the FBI already has my prints (A requirement for my CPP permit), this is BS.

-S

Got mine too. From being a tourist :p

02-05-08, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DeepIron

http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/02/04/f...ics/index.html

The ACLU's Steinhardt doesn't believe it will stop there.
"This had started out being a program to track or identify criminals," he said. "Now we're talking about large swaths of the population -- workers, volunteers in youth programs. Eventually, it's going to be everybody."

I hate the premise that I will feel safer because of this. Heck, the US can't even stop uneducated illegals from entering the country...

What??? Against it? Why, you liberal fools!
Don't you know that BIG GOVERNMENT knows what's best for you?

How dare you question this proposal!!!

<(aiming directly at the mike)> Why, I fully endorse this idea, and in fact, Bush, and his administration, should be kept on for 8 more years to ensure that this project is completed. Screw privacy! That'll keep us safe from terrorists.

Anyone who doesn't see 1984 fizzing up like a coke bottle with a mento in it isn't paying attention.

02-04-08, 04:19 PM	#1
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02-04-08, 04:50 PM	#2
SUBMAN1 Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 11,866 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I rarely agree with them too - but I'm against this as well. THough the FBI already has my prints (A requirement for my CPP permit), this is BS. -S __________________

02-04-08, 05:09 PM	#3
mrbeast Ace of the Deep Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Bolton, UK Posts: 1,236 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Think I agree with the comments posted here already. In the UK at least one high ranking police officer said that there should be national database of everyone's DNA! Think such ideas are crazy. Theres already trouble over the police keeping DNA samples from people who have been stopped but were not charged or were found not guilty in court. I think some law enforcement organisations in the US and the UK lose sight of the whole reason for their existance i.e. the protection of the individual, not the pursuit of the guilty at any and all costs. __________________

02-04-08, 06:23 PM	#5
Tchocky Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,874 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	DHS has plenty of my prints on file. Printed over 20 times now, index and full spread. Bleh. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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August Wayfaring Stranger Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 23,199 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I don't necessarily disagree with you fellows in principle but how about giving us some scenarios where these databases could actually hurt the law abiding? Please don't include mistaken identity cases as that can happen just as easily without the database as with... __________________ Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.