IQ test are largely based on memory

Redbrow · 01-25-08, 04:17 PM

Most schooling is based on tests and most tests are based on memory. Memory is a fine tool for an intelligent person to use. But if memory was intelligence, the chimps would rule the earth:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...n_page_id=1770

GlobalExplorer · 01-25-08, 04:19 PM

Isn't intelligence, at least partially, also based on memory?

mrbeast · 01-25-08, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by GlobalExplorer

Isn't intelligence, at least partially, also based on memory?

I can't remember. :hmm:

elite_hunter_sh3 · 01-25-08, 04:29 PM

just add more RAM if you want to have better memory :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

FIREWALL · 01-25-08, 04:32 PM

Or wear that hat Redbrow posted on other thread. :rotfl:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=129689

Skybird · 01-25-08, 04:48 PM

Memory and intelligence interact, but both are two different things. Most IQ tests I have seen based on knowledge of any kind, and learned/trained skills. the confusion comes from the fact that when you ask 100 psychologists for a definition of what intelligence is, you will get 30 different answers or so.

Obviously there are people who are not educated very well anbd have not stored a mlot of knowledge in their memory, nevertheless they act by healthy reason and act and talk by solid brightness, cleverness, however you wan t to label it. while others have a lot of diploma, trained a lot, learned a lot of stuff - and fail when needing to think cratively or independently. You can know a lot and still be dumb. You can lack education, but be very reasonable.

Anonymous pressure by your social environment also influences your individual thinking, anbd very massively so.

I did three clinical IQ tests at university, and the results varied widely from I think 118 (slightly above average) to 145 (top 5% of population), depending on how much number stuff there was included (not good for me), and how much abstract thinking and threedimensional imagination there was (very good for me). Should I just take the means core, then? Nonsens. My conclusion as an ex-psychologist is that I do not want anybody to bother with IQ tests, it is misleading and gives a distorted image of your real skills and mental talents. the result most often tells more about the test and how it was constructed, than about the quality of yolur intelligence. So just use your brain to the best potential you are capable of - that is good enough, since that is what it is there for. It must not be compared to anyone else anyway. It is not the olympics.

there have been - and still are - chess champions who played the game extremely way - and were described to be total idiots when it came to handling issues of ordinary life.

And never forget what Einstein said: "imagination is more important than knowledge". that's not just another bon mot - that simply is true. Without imagination, you do not think - you just repeat old habits.

Yahoshua · 01-25-08, 04:52 PM

This comes down to the difference between knowledge and wisdom.

You can memorize all the books and all the information there is to know (this is knowledge). But if you are unable to interpret that information and apply it to real-world circumstances, and adapt your actions according it means you lack wisdom.

For example, we all know that gravity pulls objects downward, but if we aren't smart enough to figure out that a short fall won't hurt us (off a curb) but a big fall (off a cliff) will then we won't be around for long. Kinda like the Darwin Award winners.

Kapitan_Phillips · 01-26-08, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by elite_hunter_sh3

just add more RAM if you want to have better memory :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

:rotfl: Yeah, I think my 64k Acorn Computing chip needs a refit :hmm:

mrbeast · 01-25-08, 04:20 PM

Maybe they do. Perhaps they are just lulling mankind into a false sense of security before they.......... burst on the scene............ and take all our bananas!

Jimbuna · 01-26-08, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by mrbeast

Maybe they do. Perhaps they are just lulling mankind into a false sense of security before they.......... burst on the scene............ and take all our bananas!

It's already started

mrbeast · 01-26-08, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

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Originally Posted by mrbeast

Maybe they do. Perhaps they are just lulling mankind into a false sense of security before they.......... burst on the scene............ and take all our bananas!

It's already started

OMG!!!!!

Get your hands off my bananas you dammed dirty ape!!!!!

Jimbuna · 01-26-08, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by mrbeast

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrbeast

Maybe they do. Perhaps they are just lulling mankind into a false sense of security before they.......... burst on the scene............ and take all our bananas!

It's already started

OMG!!!!!

Get your hands off my bananas you dammed dirty ape!!!!!

01-25-08, 04:17 PM	#1
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01-25-08, 04:48 PM	#6
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,783 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Memory and intelligence interact, but both are two different things. Most IQ tests I have seen based on knowledge of any kind, and learned/trained skills. the confusion comes from the fact that when you ask 100 psychologists for a definition of what intelligence is, you will get 30 different answers or so. Obviously there are people who are not educated very well anbd have not stored a mlot of knowledge in their memory, nevertheless they act by healthy reason and act and talk by solid brightness, cleverness, however you wan t to label it. while others have a lot of diploma, trained a lot, learned a lot of stuff - and fail when needing to think cratively or independently. You can know a lot and still be dumb. You can lack education, but be very reasonable. Anonymous pressure by your social environment also influences your individual thinking, anbd very massively so. I did three clinical IQ tests at university, and the results varied widely from I think 118 (slightly above average) to 145 (top 5% of population), depending on how much number stuff there was included (not good for me), and how much abstract thinking and threedimensional imagination there was (very good for me). Should I just take the means core, then? Nonsens. My conclusion as an ex-psychologist is that I do not want anybody to bother with IQ tests, it is misleading and gives a distorted image of your real skills and mental talents. the result most often tells more about the test and how it was constructed, than about the quality of yolur intelligence. So just use your brain to the best potential you are capable of - that is good enough, since that is what it is there for. It must not be compared to anyone else anyway. It is not the olympics. there have been - and still are - chess champions who played the game extremely way - and were described to be total idiots when it came to handling issues of ordinary life. And never forget what Einstein said: "imagination is more important than knowledge". that's not just another bon mot - that simply is true. Without imagination, you do not think - you just repeat old habits. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

01-25-08, 04:52 PM	#7
Yahoshua The Old Man Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,493 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	This comes down to the difference between knowledge and wisdom. You can memorize all the books and all the information there is to know (this is knowledge). But if you are unable to interpret that information and apply it to real-world circumstances, and adapt your actions according it means you lack wisdom. For example, we all know that gravity pulls objects downward, but if we aren't smart enough to figure out that a short fall won't hurt us (off a curb) but a big fall (off a cliff) will then we won't be around for long. Kinda like the Darwin Award winners. __________________ Science is the organized unpredictability that strives not to set limits to mans' capabilities, but is the engine by which the limits of mans' understanding is defined-Yahoshua

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elite_hunter_sh3 The Old Man Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,376 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	just add more RAM if you want to have better memory :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

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mrbeast Ace of the Deep Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Bolton, UK Posts: 1,236 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Maybe they do. Perhaps they are just lulling mankind into a false sense of security before they.......... burst on the scene............ and take all our bananas! __________________