north sea merchant routes...

flag4 · 01-25-08, 03:42 PM

some of us are looking for north sea merchant routes - i found this at

http://www.naval-history.net/WW2CampaignsBritain.htm

thing is, i couldnt find the routes to europe and scandinavia - wich would be nice. anyway, hope this helps.

von hally · 01-25-08, 05:40 PM

cheers flag 4

quite handy!!!!

tho finding them there is sometimes harder than it looks!!!:rotfl: :rotfl:

Pisces · 01-25-08, 06:58 PM

When I did my first couple of patrols (GWX 1.03) in the north sea I thought (naively) ships went from port to port in roughly straight direction across the sea, not taking too many detours. And that there had to be some chokepoints or high density locations where most of them pass through. I quickly lost any hope of finding those lanes and areas. In the interest of learning how the mission editor works (Yeah right!!! :hmm:

...

honest ), I took a look at the random layer of the campaign. Trust me, enough uncertainty to life up to it's name, or not to count on meeting some ship somewhere anytime soon. Eventhough the north sea is relatively small, the merchants pretty much go all over the place, and have several forks in their waypoints which they choose randomly. Your best bets are on entrances to harbours and along the coast (same as the pic). But those are obviously protected heavily and eventually behind a mine curtain. GWX 2 can only have this uncertainty maximised. I can only guess as I never played it.

Your mileage may vary.

KeptinCranky · 01-25-08, 07:17 PM

one word... Hydrophone

my way of finding them, this is mostly in 1939 and early 1940 draw lines from the Norwegian port of Bergen to Aberdeen, Firth of Forth, Hartlepool and Inverness, then pick one of those lines, find a position within 50km of that line and within 100km of the British coastline then loiter until some unsuspecting merchie comes along, this shouldn't take more than a day or 2, Identify nationality (very important) and sink if hostile....

don't get too near the coastline though because of minefields. I also find the deep areas NE of Hartlepool and E of Rosyth good spots for hunting with a good depth for getting away from any nasties that show up

flag4 · 01-26-08, 10:47 AM

KeptinCranky,

thats cool clear and precise !

many thanks

Ula Jolly · 01-26-08, 02:28 PM

I thought the minefields surrounding England were much, much further out than at 100km? Indeed, nearly 1/3 the way to Norway (looking from Hartlepool/Firth etc)?

01-25-08, 03:42 PM	#1
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01-26-08, 10:47 AM	#5
flag4 Watch Officer Join Date: May 2007 Location: as far away as possible Posts: 1,625 Downloads: 147 Uploads: 0	*KeptinCranky,* *thats cool clear and precise !* *many thanks* __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] ' We are here on Earth to fart around. Don't let anybody tell you any different.' Kurt Vonnegut

01-26-08, 02:28 PM	#6
Ula Jolly Samurai Navy Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Norway Posts: 567 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I thought the minefields surrounding England were much, much further out than at 100km? Indeed, nearly 1/3 the way to Norway (looking from Hartlepool/Firth etc)? __________________ I shall punish yee, landlubber! C'mere for spankings and popsicles!

01-25-08, 05:40 PM	#2
von hally Commodore Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Scotland Posts: 634 Downloads: 64 Uploads: 0	cheers flag 4 quite handy!!!! tho finding them there is sometimes harder than it looks!!!:rotfl: :rotfl:

01-25-08, 06:58 PM	#3
Pisces Silent Hunter Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: AN9771 Posts: 4,904 Downloads: 304 Uploads: 0	When I did my first couple of patrols (GWX 1.03) in the north sea I thought (naively) ships went from port to port in roughly straight direction across the sea, not taking too many detours. And that there had to be some chokepoints or high density locations where most of them pass through. I quickly lost any hope of finding those lanes and areas. In the interest of learning how the mission editor works (Yeah right!!! :hmm: ... honest ), I took a look at the random layer of the campaign. Trust me, enough uncertainty to life up to it's name, or not to count on meeting some ship somewhere anytime soon. Eventhough the north sea is relatively small, the merchants pretty much go all over the place, and have several forks in their waypoints which they choose randomly. Your best bets are on entrances to harbours and along the coast (same as the pic). But those are obviously protected heavily and eventually behind a mine curtain. GWX 2 can only have this uncertainty maximised. I can only guess as I never played it. Your mileage may vary.

01-25-08, 07:17 PM	#4
KeptinCranky Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,050 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	one word... Hydrophone my way of finding them, this is mostly in 1939 and early 1940 draw lines from the Norwegian port of Bergen to Aberdeen, Firth of Forth, Hartlepool and Inverness, then pick one of those lines, find a position within 50km of that line and within 100km of the British coastline then loiter until some unsuspecting merchie comes along, this shouldn't take more than a day or 2, Identify nationality (very important) and sink if hostile.... don't get too near the coastline though because of minefields. I also find the deep areas NE of Hartlepool and E of Rosyth good spots for hunting with a good depth for getting away from any nasties that show up