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Old 01-24-08, 05:33 PM   #1
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Iraq seeks sharp reduction in U.S. military role


Negotiations to begin on taking American forces out of combat



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Old 01-24-08, 06:05 PM   #2
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If they request that, I see no argument why to reject that. It is their country. And isn't that the long awaited opportunity to start pulling out without loosing your face - leaving because the other asks you to step down your military role, so in no way you'd violate anyone's will when leaving?

Or did you plan to stay for another fifteen years, no matter if wnated by Iraqis, or not? :hmm:

If I were the US, I would take that chance to get rid of this unloved haemorrhoids while having a free ride with the media, even more so before the presidential election. Even me would find it difficult to criticise bush for complying with what Iraqis want, and bringing home the troops. "The party that gave back peace to America" - the republican party's government! that could make a difference in the election.
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Old 01-24-08, 06:08 PM   #3
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Don't ever assume the US is ever fully leaving - ever. THis is as long as Iraq allows it.

They want a permanent base for ops against Syria or Iran if the situation warrants it.

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PS. I don't doubt the US will step down if asked. This is the moment we have been waiting for. The Iraqis can now handle things themselves. This is exactly what we have tried to accomplish since 2003. But of course, you said back then that we would never achieve this. :p
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Don't ever assume the US is ever fully leaving - ever. THis is as long as Iraq allows it.

They want a permanent base for ops against Syria or Iran if the situation warrants it.

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Welcome to the insight into why this war was really fought, and planned for since the early 90s.

Strange to agree with you on something.
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Old 01-24-08, 06:14 PM   #5
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Don't ever assume the US is ever fully leaving - ever. THis is as long as Iraq allows it.

They want a permanent base for ops against Syria or Iran if the situation warrants it.

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Welcome to the insight into why this war was really fought, and planned for since the early 90s.

Strange to agree with you on something.
I'm sure it was when they kept shooting at our jets and violating the terms of the ceasefire. I don't doubt they planned it since then. This started the moment they started giving the rightfull weapons inspectors the boot.

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PS. The US plans all things and all scenarios at all times. DOn't be surprised if their are many scenarios for attacking a country like Germany, Russia, CHina, France, anyone. That is their job. A conflict can arrise at any times and I am sure their is a scenario planned for any country in this entire world. Get used to it. That is how we do business and protect our people.
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Old 01-24-08, 06:36 PM   #6
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Don't ever assume the US is ever fully leaving - ever. THis is as long as Iraq allows it.

They want a permanent base for ops against Syria or Iran if the situation warrants it.

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Welcome to the insight into why this war was really fought, and planned for since the early 90s.

Strange to agree with you on something.
I'm sure it was when they kept shooting at our jets and violating the terms of the ceasefire. I don't doubt they planned it since then. This started the moment they started giving the rightfull weapons inspectors the boot.

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PS. The US plans all things and all scenarios at all times. DOn't be surprised if their are many scenarios for attacking a country like Germany, Russia, CHina, France, anyone. That is their job. A conflict can arrise at any times and I am sure their is a scenario planned for any country in this entire world. Get used to it. That is how we do business and protect our people.
Yadda-yadda-yadda, all nice, all irrelevant to the topic.

You accepted to be confronted by Iraqi SAMS when you willed to monitor and enforce the no-fly zones (which did not prevent their helicopters to massacre the Shia after they were betrayed by the US), and when you willed to enforce the UN mandate. You had to expect that, and the UN mandate hardly gave you green light for an allout war to remove the regime that you just had saved from falling in 1991 - intentionally.

* You wanted that country as a strategic platform,
* and you wanted your hand at the Iraqi oil pipelines to be able to control who gets what, and US companies and namely Cheney's Halliburton taking the lion's share of the profits.

These were the reasons why this war was planned and wanted. It was not a war of necessity, it was a war of choice and desire. Your shiny propaganda sounds nice and kind in the ear, but has not much to do with the reality.

but some weeks ago you tried to tell me that the developement costs of a fighter program do not proportionally contribute to the overall value of the individual unit in service, so what else could I expect than absurdities.
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I'm sure it was when they kept shooting at our jets and violating the terms of the ceasefire. I don't doubt they planned it since then. This started the moment they started giving the rightfull weapons inspectors the boot.
Since the coalition had been carrying out a low level bombing campaign against Iraq its not surprising that the Iraqis were tempted to fire back every now and then.

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PS. The US plans all things and all scenarios at all times. DOn't be surprised if their are many scenarios for attacking a country like Germany, Russia, CHina, France, anyone. That is their job. A conflict can arrise at any times and I am sure their is a scenario planned for any country in this entire world. Get used to it. That is how we do business and protect our people.
Strange how nobody planned for the post war scenario in Iraq though. :hmm:
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PS. The US plans all things and all scenarios at all times. DOn't be surprised if their are many scenarios for attacking a country like Germany, Russia, CHina, France, anyone. That is their job. A conflict can arrise at any times and I am sure their is a scenario planned for any country in this entire world. Get used to it. That is how we do business and protect our people.
Yes (all countries do that). I just find it strange that you said "we", because these decisions usually are made by people a lot brighter than you
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I'm happyand would like complete pullout if asked by IRAQ.

I also want a complete pullout of present and future U.S.A. MONEY.

Let them run it finacially by themselves too.
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Old 01-25-08, 03:39 PM   #10
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Iraq seeks sharp reduction in U.S. military role
Negotiations to begin on taking American forces out of combat
Read on here - http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22825800/
Well, it's pretty obvious that they've got everything under control now, and US forces are no longer needed. We know the Iraqi forces will keep the peace from now on, and do a great job of it, too.

Thank you and goodnight all. We'll be heading back to the USA tomorrow. Glad we could help.
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The Shiite controlled Iraqi govt wants to chase out the US army? Wow! Iran really must be worrying that an attack is imminent. Looks like they also figured out that the US is slowly moving toward reinstalling the Sunnis.

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