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View Poll Results: How should the command room crew be configured
3 additional Jr Officers to man the Nav station, one for each watch 12 40.00%
2 additional Jr Officers for the 1st and 2nd watch nav station, with a Petty Officer manning the 3rd 4 13.33%
1 additional Jr Officer for the 1st watch nav station, with a Petty Officer manning the 2nd and 3rd 9 30.00%
Other 5 16.67%
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Old 01-17-08, 07:50 PM   #1
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Default Adding a 3d Navigator to the Command Room

We have a way to add crewmen to the various compartments on the boat, and have them man any station for which a 3d node already exists. For instance, there is an officer standing at the navigator's table and calling out appropriate information, but only when the crew is at General Quarters (battlestations). Otherwise the station is unmanned. What we have been able to do is add crew men to that compartment and assign them to the navigator's station during normal (1st, 2nd and 3rd) watches.

The question is how best to configure the crew assignments so that we get the benefit without throwing the "standard complement" too far out of whack.

Please use this poll and thread to express your thoughts and opinions.

Thank you

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Old 01-17-08, 08:34 PM   #2
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Does the navigator add any more voice output other then, "returning to course sir?"

Personnaly, if i were to add a crewman, its a tossup between the navigator, and the trim manifold. While he doesnt have any voice output that im aware of, his normal absence sometimes bugs me.

A thought occured to me whlie i type this. The lack of crew cheering on a torpedo hit. In Sh3, it was the manifold operator who let out the audible cheer, so i have to wonder if the lack of a cheer correlates to the lack of manifold operator after i moved him to the empty planesman station

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I suppose if that was the case, it would show up in GC . :hmm: wish that cheer worked.
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Old 01-18-08, 03:16 AM   #3
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Does the navigator add any more voice output other then, "returning to course sir?"
I've also heard him say "Plotting search pattern", but I don't think he says much more.

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The lack of crew cheering on a torpedo hit.
In SH3 this was governed by the file PUMP.dat, which is also present in SH4. I tried editing it in the same way as the SH3 file to add the cheer, but it still doesn't show up in SH4. The animation (planesmen throwing their fist in the air) is there, however, so it should be possible to combine it with a sound somehow.

Personally I would like to have as many crewmen visible as possible, so that in effect, GQ only adds the 3D models of the gun and AAA crews. Just one concern: does the repair crew still show up OK if you do this?

Maybe he's hiding somewhere behind a crate, but I can't remember seeing a NAV officer in S-class subs.

So after giving it a thought, my vote goes to "1 Jr Officer (1st watch nav) + Petty Officer (2nd and 3rd watch)". This provides some variation, which I think gives the best visual effect.
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Old 01-18-08, 03:48 AM   #4
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The response I miss the most from the navigator is "Depth under keel is . . ." I think it fell to the wayside in the meters to feet conversion.

This sounds like a great idea by the way.
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Old 01-18-08, 04:39 AM   #5
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Whatever is the historical, accurate placement of men, I'm all for it!
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Old 01-18-08, 06:06 AM   #6
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Default Navigator station

Hi Everybody,
I don't know why there is this concern for a a navigator on watch at all times. I cannot speak for U.S. boats but British boats only had Captain plus 3 or 4 officers, one of whom was the Navigator. At Diving stations, meaning all crew closed up, he would be at the plot. With normal watchkeeping, on the surface the O.O.W. on the bridge, in the control room the P.O.of the watch, who took care of the chart and liaised with the O.O.W. When dived the O.O.W. was of course in the control room and checked the navigation himself. At all times the Navigator would be on call if required. He would have prepared the courses and speeds well in advance so really all the O.O.W. or watch P.O. would have to do was read these off, and put fixes on the chart to check actual position against intended.
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Old 01-19-08, 06:12 PM   #7
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Bump.

If there's no interest in this, I just want to make sure it's not because it wasn't seen...
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Old 01-19-08, 10:49 PM   #8
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You can bet that I am stil VERY interested. Although I am biased since I posed the question in the first place. Anyway I am back in port now so I can test any new work you may have.

Thanks again for this!!!
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