VIIB vs. VIIC

Graf Paper · 01-16-08, 04:30 PM

I've earned enough renown to trade in my trusty U-47 type VIIB u-boat for a type VIIC boat.

Upon comparing the vital stats of the two variants, I noticed the only apparent differences listed was the VIIB is slightly faster both surfaced and submerged but the VIIC is three seconds faster in its dive time and somewhat larger in its displacement tonnage.

Is it really worth it to spend 3,000 Renown getting the VIIC? Can any of you more experienced Kaleuns clue me in on the advantages the VIIC may or may not have over the VIIB besides having a secondary flak gun?

Penelope_Grey · 01-16-08, 04:33 PM

trading in for a VIIC is a good move as they have faster dives, and even more useful... a stronger pressure hull. the VIIC could generally go deeper than the VIIB use ful when the escorts begin to get good.

Also the VIIC has far more options for upgrade over the VIIB like better conning towers.

Also the speed difference is negligable at best a VIIC will do 8 knots submerged too.

GlobalExplorer · 01-16-08, 04:38 PM

I tried to stick with the VIIB because it looks much better

I think the C has more hitpoints and it can dive deeper, but I am not qualified to make claims.

Sledgehammer427 · 01-16-08, 04:41 PM

yeah and the VII/C look cooler too lol

i like the quicker diving time, and the huge amounts of skins that u can D/L for them

Wolfehunter · 01-16-08, 04:43 PM

VIIC is far better looking too.

Don't you agree..

Penelope_Grey · 01-16-08, 04:49 PM

LOL does it matter?

As long as it does the business. lol

GlobalExplorer · 01-16-08, 04:54 PM

size dont matter eh

Deathfrombelow23 · 01-16-08, 05:38 PM

I prefer the VIIB. It is 500 less renown and if you look, it has a longer submerged range than the VIIC by 10 KM or so -- this helps because I do not feel the need to upgrade to the longer-lasting batteries when they become available later (= less renown spent). Not to mention that it's just slightly faster than the VIIC. The extra 3 seconds of dive time that the C has is of no significance to me. I doubt 3 seconds is going to make THAT much difference. Once you're down to about 9-10 meters or so, you become very difficult to hit with a deck gun and 3 seconds later you're passing periscope depth. I like the way the VIIB's look too. In real life, I believe the VIIC's had slightly longer range and could dive a bit deeper, but I am not sure if this is modeled in the game. Someone was saying the VIIC has more hitpoints??? Please, DO TELL!!!!

Graf Paper · 01-16-08, 07:07 PM

Well, now I'm just merely confused instead of uncertain. lol

So the biggest differences between the VIIB and VIIC is as follows:

VIIB - Faster surface and subsurface speeds and longer endurance submerged.

VIIC - More durable and greater maximum dive depth with marginally quicker dive times.

At least this is what I've gathered so far from everybody's replies so far.

Having more options for future upgrades, especially radar, sonar, and anything else that helps to increase your advantage would definitely tip matters in favor of the VIIC....unless those same options are also available for the VIIB. I could really care less about deck/flak guns as I try never to put my boat in a position where using them is needed except for finishing off a merchant you don't want to waste any more torpedoes with just to sink them.

Abd_von_Mumit · 01-17-08, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikhayl

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Originally Posted by Penelope_Grey

LOL does it matter?

As long as it does the business. lol

Indeed it matters, in fact it does the business BECAUSE it's pretty !
Look at WW II era french subs, they perform as they look :rotfl:

No no no! A boat is like a penis - size doesn't matter at all, so it doesn't have to be large. Instead it has to be long and thick.

melendir · 01-17-08, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Abd_von_Mumit

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Originally Posted by Mikhayl

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Originally Posted by Penelope_Grey

LOL does it matter?

As long as it does the business. lol

Indeed it matters, in fact it does the business BECAUSE it's pretty !
Look at WW II era french subs, they perform as they look :rotfl:

No no no! A boat is like a penis - size doesn't matter at all, so it doesn't have to be large. Instead it has to be long and thick.

As Dr. Evil said in Austin Powers 3: "Welcome to my submarine lair. It's long and hard and full of seamen." :rotfl:

01-16-08, 04:30 PM	#1
Graf Paper Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Pacific Northwest United States Posts: 1,146 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 2	VIIB vs. VIIC I've earned enough renown to trade in my trusty U-47 type VIIB u-boat for a type VIIC boat. Upon comparing the vital stats of the two variants, I noticed the only apparent differences listed was the VIIB is slightly faster both surfaced and submerged but the VIIC is three seconds faster in its dive time and somewhat larger in its displacement tonnage. Is it really worth it to spend 3,000 Renown getting the VIIC? Can any of you more experienced Kaleuns clue me in on the advantages the VIIC may or may not have over the VIIB besides having a secondary flak gun? __________________ Still sailing the high seas, hunting convoys with those who join me.

01-16-08, 04:33 PM	#2
Penelope_Grey Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: UK Posts: 1,893 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	trading in for a VIIC is a good move as they have faster dives, and even more useful... a stronger pressure hull. the VIIC could generally go deeper than the VIIB use ful when the escorts begin to get good. Also the VIIC has far more options for upgrade over the VIIB like better conning towers. Also the speed difference is negligable at best a VIIC will do 8 knots submerged too. __________________ I SURVIVED THE FIRST EVER SUBSIM WEREWOLF HUNT - and... I actually won the game for the humans too!

01-16-08, 04:38 PM	#3
GlobalExplorer Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Location: Berlin Posts: 2,015 Downloads: 165 Uploads: 0	I tried to stick with the VIIB because it looks much better I think the C has more hitpoints and it can dive deeper, but I am not qualified to make claims. __________________

01-16-08, 04:41 PM	#4
Sledgehammer427 PacWagon Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Drinking coffee and staring at trees in Massachusetts Posts: 2,908 Downloads: 287 Uploads: 0	yeah and the VII/C look cooler too lol i like the quicker diving time, and the huge amounts of skins that u can D/L for them __________________ Cold Waters Voice Crew - Fire Control Officer Cmdr O. Myers - C/O USS Nautilus (SS-168) 114,000 tons sunk - 4 Spec Ops completed V-boat Nutcase - Need supplies? Japanese garrison on a small island in the way? Just give us a call! D4C!

01-16-08, 04:43 PM	#5
Wolfehunter Crusty Capt. Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 2,752 Downloads: 40 Uploads: 25	VIIC is far better looking too. Don't you agree.. __________________

01-16-08, 04:49 PM	#6
Penelope_Grey Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: UK Posts: 1,893 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	LOL does it matter? As long as it does the business. lol __________________ I SURVIVED THE FIRST EVER SUBSIM WEREWOLF HUNT - and... I actually won the game for the humans too!

01-16-08, 04:54 PM	#7
GlobalExplorer Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Location: Berlin Posts: 2,015 Downloads: 165 Uploads: 0	size dont matter eh __________________

01-16-08, 05:38 PM	#8
Deathfrombelow23 Electrician's Mate Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 134 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	I prefer the VIIB. It is 500 less renown and if you look, it has a longer submerged range than the VIIC by 10 KM or so -- this helps because I do not feel the need to upgrade to the longer-lasting batteries when they become available later (= less renown spent). Not to mention that it's just slightly faster than the VIIC. The extra 3 seconds of dive time that the C has is of no significance to me. I doubt 3 seconds is going to make THAT much difference. Once you're down to about 9-10 meters or so, you become very difficult to hit with a deck gun and 3 seconds later you're passing periscope depth. I like the way the VIIB's look too. In real life, I believe the VIIC's had slightly longer range and could dive a bit deeper, but I am not sure if this is modeled in the game. Someone was saying the VIIC has more hitpoints??? Please, DO TELL!!!!

01-16-08, 07:07 PM	#9
Graf Paper Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Pacific Northwest United States Posts: 1,146 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 2	Well, now I'm just merely confused instead of uncertain. lol So the biggest differences between the VIIB and VIIC is as follows: VIIB - Faster surface and subsurface speeds and longer endurance submerged. VIIC - More durable and greater maximum dive depth with marginally quicker dive times. At least this is what I've gathered so far from everybody's replies so far. Having more options for future upgrades, especially radar, sonar, and anything else that helps to increase your advantage would definitely tip matters in favor of the VIIC....unless those same options are also available for the VIIB. I could really care less about deck/flak guns as I try never to put my boat in a position where using them is needed except for finishing off a merchant you don't want to waste any more torpedoes with just to sink them. __________________ Still sailing the high seas, hunting convoys with those who join me.