Bismarck, Yamato or Arizona

Wich of this incredible battleships you think it's the best, the bismarck was the best Ship in the kriegsmarine, the Yamato was the best ship of the japan imperial navy, and everyone knows the Arizona, the lost one in pearl harbor. But which of these is the most incredible battleship of the WWII.


Bismarck


Yamato


USS Arizona

[Torplexed]

Hmm. Best WW2 battleship ever. This one has been argued many times.:hmm: Combined Fleet's website did a comprehensive arguement on this one once....

http://www.combinedfleet.com/baddest.htm

These three warships do summarize the fall of the battleship from grace well. All were victims of airpower. Maybe Bismarck to a lesser extent, but they still sealed her fate.

[nikimcbee]

Originally Posted by Torplexed

Hmm. Best WW2 battleship ever. This one has been argued many times.:hmm: Combined Fleet's website did a comprehensive arguement on this one once....

http://www.combinedfleet.com/baddest.htm

These three warships do summarize the fall of the battleship from grace well. All were victims of airpower. Maybe Bismarck to a lesser extent, but they still sealed her fate.

AAHH you beat me to the combinedfleet post. That's a great comparison. The Arizona wouldn't last 5 seconds against the Yamato or Bismarck. An Iowa class though...:hmm: I think that would kick ass.

[Mush Martin]

Originally Posted by Torplexed

These three warships do summarize the fall of the battleship from grace well. All were victims of airpower. Maybe Bismarck to a lesser extent, but they still sealed her fate.

Indeed its the airplane not the torpedo boat or submarine
that killed the battleship
secondary batteries were largely flawed that way outside the US.

Roma, Conte d Cavour, Tirpitz, Prince of wales, Repulse ,Arizona,
Oklahoma, Yamato and Musahi can attest to the effectiveness of
aircraft in naval combat.

only Hiei, Fuso, and Scharnhorst support an anti surface secondary

shore bombardment by battleships while impressive psychologically
was better done by six and eight inch gun cruisers which were
cheaper too. the only effective wwII role for battleships really
was as superior AA escorts in the carrier groups and at least
in the case of the USN they knew no equal.

M

[Darkcyde]

I vote Iowa class.

[CaptainNemo12]

What happened to the Iowa class?:hmm:

[Torplexed]

Originally Posted by CaptainNemo12

What happened to the Iowa class?:hmm:

You can always vote 'other'.

[kenijaru]

Bismarck, she's sexy and she's got one hell of a story. (or should I say "he" like Lindemann did?)

[PavelKirilovich]

Bismarck. Technologically she is superior in all aspects to the IJN Yamato and USN Arizona. One exception: Her RADAR equipment is inferior to the Arizona's (assuming Arizona would have been refit with updated technology). Bismarck's armour plate is superior to American Class "A" plate by a rather significant amount and her gunnery is superlative. As a battleship, the KM Bismarck is the terror of the seas.

By the by... why no Royal Navy option? RN had some pretty fierce battlewagons armoured with some very good ("CA," cemented armour) plate, even superior to what Bismarck was protected by.

[K-9]

The Arizona was a sister to the USS Texas, Both were built for WWI and were small enough to survive the "Washington Treaty" Limiting battleship size and production. Had the Arizona not been sunk at pearl harbor it would have likly been scrapped in 43 to build something else.

Name the only 3 battle in which Battle ships enguaged each other as they were ment too.

[Torplexed]

Originally Posted by K-9

Name the only 3 battle in which Battle ships enguaged each other as they were ment too.

2nd battle of Guadalacanal, Suriago Strait, the Bismarck vs Hood and Prince of Wales and her finale with KGV and the Rodney. You also could probably make an arguement for the 1943 North Cape battle. 'Battlecruiser' Scharnhorst was taken unawares and pounded by the HMS Duke of York in the frigid waters north of Norway.

[Saldiray]

I think Yamato was far ahead of its time in both design and architecture. Yamato suffered enormous punishment from US aircraft and finally went down to her final grave, the ocean floor but Bismarck? It never gave me that gigantic look of a BB but thinking of her final battle, how she had been shelled at to death and still managing to stay afloat is a miracle. I was really shocked when the documentary "Expedition Bismarck" revealed that it was sunk not by British shells or torpedoes, but by her own crew's scuttling her. Yamato or Bismarck? Still can't decide, but i'm certain on one thing, Arizona is just like a joke when compared to the other two.

[JAKE]

Yamato..Just for being the biggest.LOL

[mrbeast]

Originally Posted by Saldiray

I think Yamato was far ahead of its time in both design and architecture. Yamato suffered enormous punishment from US aircraft and finally went down to her final grave, the ocean floor but Bismarck? It never gave me that gigantic look of a BB but thinking of her final battle, how she had been shelled at to death and still managing to stay afloat is a miracle. I was really shocked when the documentary "Expedition Bismarck" revealed that it was sunk not by British shells or torpedoes, but by her own crew's scuttling her. Yamato or Bismarck? Still can't decide, but i'm certain on one thing, Arizona is just like a joke when compared to the other two.

German BBs had a reputation of having to be beaten into submission, some of those at Jutland came very near to sinking but managed to hold on long enough to reach Wilhelmshaven and safety, after suffering terrible damage. Take Seydlitz in this picture here:



One of the reasons Bismarck lasted so long in her final firefight with Rodney and KGV was that the RN ships closed the range so much that their shots were hitting Bismarck at a flatter trajectory than normal. So hits tended to pass through the superstructure and sides of the hull rather than penetrating through the bottom of the ship or hitting vital areas. Some shots actually bounced off the surface of the water and up into the conning tower and funnel.

[TriskettheKid]

Iowa-class, of course.

USS New Jersey.