The most ridiculous headline of the week

12-01-07, 03:51 PM

Clinton Calm in Hostage Crisis

From 436 miles away? How did she do it? What an amazing sence of clarity under crisis.

"It affected me not only because they were my staff members and volunteers, but as a mother, it was just a horrible sense of bewilderment, confusion, outrage, frustration, anger, everything at the same time," Clinton said.

At the same time, the woman striving to move from former first lady to the first female president was eager to convey that she knew the traditional lines of command and control in a crisis, even if the events inside the storefront on North Main Street were far short of a world calamity.

blue3golf · 12-01-07, 04:05 PM

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

The WosMan · 12-01-07, 04:14 PM

I'll tell you how she stayed calm, because she is a cold-hearted b!#*h.

STEED · 12-01-07, 06:20 PM

Isn't she a communist? :hmm:

12-01-07, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by STEED

Isn't she a communist? :hmm:

That is being kind. In the mold of most of Europe.

STEED · 12-01-07, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by waste gate

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Originally Posted by STEED

Isn't she a communist? :hmm:

That is being kind. In the mold of most of Europe.

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Don't panic guy's America will never at the moment vote a women in to the White House let alone another Clinton.

kiwi_2005 · 12-01-07, 06:25 PM

Don your helmets if she ever became president of the USA she would start WW3, i mean she's blonde she would press the wrong button. :p

12-01-07, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by kiwi_2005

Don your helmets if she ever became president of the USA she would start WW3, i mean she's blonde she would press the wrong button. :p

It has nothing to do with the color of her hair.

Hillary Had Bouts of Depression As First Lady

More to follow. http://in.news.yahoo.com/070602/139/6gkoj.html
Does the world really want someone who is depressed to have access to the destruction of humanity?

If she doesn't feel well about herself one day .................. we all die.

RamRod · 12-01-07, 09:38 PM

Hey, if Bush hasn't managed to start WWIII what makes you think Hillary would be anymore successful? I think President Hillary will do a fine job in straightening out this country!

Sea Demon · 12-01-07, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by RamRod

Hey, if Bush hasn't managed to start WWIII what makes you think Hillary would be anymore successful? I think President Hillary will do a fine job in straightening out this country!

How so? Do you know where she stands on any issue where she hasn't turned the other direction when convenient?

RamRod · 12-01-07, 10:50 PM

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How so? Do you know where she stands on any issue where she hasn't turned the other direction when convenient?

The only turns I'm aware of are her stance on Iraq and a softening of her immigration platform. One has to be naive to think the ideas and commitments of ANY politician are carved in stone. Everything on Capital Hill is negotiable. Look how Republicans has separated themselves from President Bush and his low approval ratings. I think you'll find that the only ones that haven’t are the ones whose seats are safe in the next election. One should expect a candidate to be flexible in light of new data. To not be can get our country caught in an inextricable quagmire. Wait, I misspelled quagmire… I-R-A-Q. There… that’s better.

It is one thing to stand by your principles. It is another to not see different viewpoints on extremely complicated issues like Iraq and immigration.

Sea Demon · 12-01-07, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by RamRod

The only turns I'm aware of are her stance on Iraq and a softening of her immigration platform. One has to be naive to think the ideas and commitments of ANY politician are carved in stone. Everything on Capital Hill is negotiable. Look how Republicans has separated themselves from President Bush and his low approval ratings. I think you'll find that the only ones that haven’t are the ones whose seats are safe in the next election. One should expect a candidate to be flexible in light of new data. To not be can get our country caught in an inextricable quagmire. Wait, I misspelled quagmire… I-R-A-Q. There… that’s better.

It is one thing to stand by your principles. It is another to not see different viewpoints on extremely complicated issues like Iraq and immigration.

Well, there is her stance on abortion, specifically parental notifications that she flipped on. She has gone back and forth on NAFTA, and was less than definitive when dealing with the issue of information extraction techniques used on terrorist prisoners. In addition she has changed her mind when the heat was on regarding Guantanamo Bay itself. These are just a few of the other ones I remember in addition to the Iraq war vote, and her immigration flops. But it's not just the flip-flopping. What about all the rotten fundraisers that she has accrued? Many Chinese? Many suspicious Chinese? You know, Chinese dishwashers donating hundreds of thousands of dollars? Does that not cause you any concern whatsoever?

RamRod · 12-02-07, 12:43 AM

I know Bill pushed NAFTA as did his predecessor, and Hillary has come out saying it should be reviewed. I don’t know that she ever had a pro-NAFTA stance other than supporting her husband. I think NAFTA does need our attention.
As for abortion, I’ve never known her stance to be other than pro-choice. On torture she advocates following the Geneva Convention but does not condemn questionable techniques like waterboarding. Is that a surprise? From what I’ve seen John McCain is the only candidate to outright denounce torture. The debated technique is waterboarding. I’m sure if you spelled out all of the things one could or could not use for interrogation you would get a more definitive response. Ask a vague question, get a vague answer.
On Guantanamo, I’m not aware of any stance change. Perhaps you could be more specific.
On campaign fundraising, I view it as the same mudslinging the GOP did during the last Clinton campaign. The fact is, accusations flew but nothing could be substantiated. It would greatly disturb me if Hillary was selling out to the Chinese and as so would not receive my vote. But, aside from right-wing accusations there has been no evidence. Another fact that you are missing is special interest groups are going to find a way to contribute to any horse they think might win the race. The Chinese were suspected of doing the same thing on the other side of the table. http://hsgac.senate.gov/index.cfm?FuseAction=PressReleases.Detail&Affiliat ion=C&PressRelease_id=318&Month=4&Year=2003
But no action because of no real evidence. So who is to say what is real and what is rhetoric? I’d like to thing our overwhelmingly right-wing justice system would happily snap the cuffs on Hillary is she were really doing anything illegal.
By the way, the delay in your response tells me you actually research and give thought to your argument. That is more than a lot of people do and I appreciate it!

12-01-07, 03:51 PM	#1
waste gate Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	The most ridiculous headline of the week Clinton Calm in Hostage Crisis From 436 miles away? How did she do it? What an amazing sence of clarity under crisis. "It affected me not only because they were my staff members and volunteers, but as a mother, it was just a horrible sense of bewilderment, confusion, outrage, frustration, anger, everything at the same time," Clinton said. At the same time, the woman striving to move from former first lady to the first female president was eager to convey that she knew the traditional lines of command and control in a crisis, even if the events inside the storefront on North Main Street were far short of a world calamity.

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STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	Isn't she a communist? :hmm: __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

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kiwi_2005 Eternal Patrol Join Date: May 2004 Location: Aeoteroa Posts: 7,382 Downloads: 223 Uploads: 1	Don your helmets if she ever became president of the USA she would start WW3, i mean she's blonde she would press the wrong button. :p __________________ RIP kiwi_2005 Those who can't laugh at themselves leave the job to others.

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RamRod Watch Join Date: May 2006 Location: Texas Loud and Proud Posts: 28 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Gotta Luv Hilary Hey, if Bush hasn't managed to start WWIII what makes you think Hillary would be anymore successful? I think President Hillary will do a fine job in straightening out this country!

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blue3golf Weps Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Traverse City, MI Posts: 352 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

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The WosMan Watch Officer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: OH Posts: 332 Downloads: 88 Uploads: 0	I'll tell you how she stayed calm, because she is a cold-hearted b!#*h.

12-02-07, 12:43 AM	#13
RamRod Watch Join Date: May 2006 Location: Texas Loud and Proud Posts: 28 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I know Bill pushed NAFTA as did his predecessor, and Hillary has come out saying it should be reviewed. I don’t know that she ever had a pro-NAFTA stance other than supporting her husband. I think NAFTA does need our attention. As for abortion, I’ve never known her stance to be other than pro-choice. On torture she advocates following the Geneva Convention but does not condemn questionable techniques like waterboarding. Is that a surprise? From what I’ve seen John McCain is the only candidate to outright denounce torture. The debated technique is waterboarding. I’m sure if you spelled out all of the things one could or could not use for interrogation you would get a more definitive response. Ask a vague question, get a vague answer. On Guantanamo, I’m not aware of any stance change. Perhaps you could be more specific. On campaign fundraising, I view it as the same mudslinging the GOP did during the last Clinton campaign. The fact is, accusations flew but nothing could be substantiated. It would greatly disturb me if Hillary was selling out to the Chinese and as so would not receive my vote. But, aside from right-wing accusations there has been no evidence. Another fact that you are missing is special interest groups are going to find a way to contribute to any horse they think might win the race. The Chinese were suspected of doing the same thing on the other side of the table. http://hsgac.senate.gov/index.cfm?FuseAction=PressReleases.Detail&Affiliat ion=C&PressRelease_id=318&Month=4&Year=2003 But no action because of no real evidence. So who is to say what is real and what is rhetoric? I’d like to thing our overwhelmingly right-wing justice system would happily snap the cuffs on Hillary is she were really doing anything illegal. By the way, the delay in your response tells me you actually research and give thought to your argument. That is more than a lot of people do and I appreciate it!