Sub Pitch Tweaking - Comparison Testing

panthercules · 11-22-07, 08:16 PM

I've been messing around with various tweaks trying to induce a better pitching motion to my sub, and I've been staring at so many combinations lately that I've begun to wonder if I'm making any progress or not. If anybody has a couple of minutes, I'd appreciate it if you could watch a couple of short videos (30 seconds each) and let me know by voting in the poll if you can tell any difference and, if so, which one you like the best:

Take 1 can be viewed here:

Take 2 can be viewed here:

Thanks in advance for the help.

ReallyDedPoet · 11-22-07, 08:43 PM

I like number 2 panther, like the waves crashing over the bow especially

RDP

Bill Nichols · 11-22-07, 09:04 PM

Ditto, Number 2.

Ivan Putski · 11-22-07, 09:11 PM

No.2 does it for me.

swdw · 11-22-07, 09:15 PM

Are you messing with the fr_ratio? I found out that throws off aiming through the "sccope" on the deck gun and have pulled it for now. You have to make additional mods so the gun scope will be accurate.

As for the videos, I'd like it halfway between the 2.

Once done, looks like it might fit in well with RFB (hint, hint)

panthercules · 11-22-07, 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swdw

Are you messing with the fr_ratio?

Nope - I did for a while, but like you I realized that has some undesirable side effects so I've left that at the normal .5 value for these latest tests. (Leovampire had originally suggested using that factor, but as Leo pointed out to me in PM, it makes the dive planesmen keep the planes at odd levels to try to keep the sub trimmed front-to-back underwater, and if you go too far with it your boat actually stands on its head, so I decided to stay away from that parameter.)

gimpy117 · 11-22-07, 10:23 PM

one loked like the sub had mass, 2 looked like it was getting tossed around a bit too much

EAGLE_01 · 12-10-07, 07:58 AM

So, How's it coming? I've been looking forward to this mod.....

panthercules · 12-10-07, 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EAGLE_01

So, How's it coming? I've been looking forward to this mod.....

Momentarily on hold for a few days - since all this was being done on top of ROW and stock behaviors were potentially rather different, and because I have no intention of ever playing this game without ROW in some form or another, I temporarily suspended my testing until Leo had a chance to get ROW fixed up for 1.4, after which I'll jump back on this with a vengeance.

FIREWALL · 01-03-08, 09:02 PM

#2 is my choice but don't stare at the video to long "URP"

I better get back to playing and get my sea legs back.

That clip made me a little woozy.

Thendash · 01-04-08, 05:03 AM

I thought take 1 looked better. Take 2 looked like it was going against the waves, like the waves were coming from right to left but it looked like it was rolling left to right(If that makes sense). Same with the up and down bit, yeah the waves "crashed" over the bow but it looked like it should have been riding the waves a bit more and go over them instead of under them like in take 2. Maybe a combo of the two would be best, have a bit of the wave go over the bow but not so much that it looks like the sub is duking under the wave like a surfer.

The General · 01-04-08, 08:34 AM

As in aerodynamics, 'Roll' is the side to side movement, not 'Pitch' as you seem to be refering to it. Pitch is the movent from bow to stern. Like when you dive nose down. I would like to see video of a stationary Sub, Pitching & Rolling in the swell, before I vote on which configuration I prefer. This is good work though. The physics of surface vessels is something that's never been great in SH4, especially the sub that appears to travel on rails like the shark did in Jaws.

View Poll Results: Pitch Tweak test - Which do you like best?
Take 1 looks better	10	23.26%
Take 2 looks better	31	72.09%
Can't tell the difference	2	4.65%
Voters: 43. You may not vote on this poll

11-22-07, 08:16 PM	#1
panthercules The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,336 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Sub Pitch Tweaking - Comparison Testing I've been messing around with various tweaks trying to induce a better pitching motion to my sub, and I've been staring at so many combinations lately that I've begun to wonder if I'm making any progress or not. If anybody has a couple of minutes, I'd appreciate it if you could watch a couple of short videos (30 seconds each) and let me know by voting in the poll if you can tell any difference and, if so, which one you like the best: Take 1 can be viewed here: Take 2 can be viewed here: Thanks in advance for the help. __________________

11-22-07, 09:04 PM	#3
Bill Nichols Master of Defense Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 1,502 Downloads: 125 Uploads: 0	Ditto, Number 2. __________________ My Dangerous Waters website:

11-22-07, 09:11 PM	#4
Ivan Putski Captain Join Date: May 2005 Location: Memphis, Tn. U.S.A. Posts: 548 Downloads: 21 Uploads: 0	No.2 does it for me. __________________ " Is He?..........Yeah..........Nothing Moving, But His Watch."

11-22-07, 09:15 PM	#5
swdw Grey Wolf Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 921 Downloads: 75 Uploads: 0	Are you messing with the fr_ratio? I found out that throws off aiming through the "sccope" on the deck gun and have pulled it for now. You have to make additional mods so the gun scope will be accurate. As for the videos, I'd like it halfway between the 2. Once done, looks like it might fit in well with RFB (hint, hint) __________________ "There are only two types of ships- submarines...... and targets" Unknown "you wouldn't catch me on a ship that deliberately sinks itself"- comment to me from a surface sailor. System: AMD 6300 3.5 GHz \| 32GB DDR3 \| SATA 300 320GB HD, SATA III 1TB HD, SATA III 1.TB HD \| ASUS Sonar DS sound card NVIDIA 1660 Super OC \| Windows 10

11-22-07, 08:43 PM	#2
ReallyDedPoet Canadian Wolf Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canada. The one and only, East Coast Posts: 10,885 Downloads: 946 Uploads: 5	I like number 2 panther, like the waves crashing over the bow especially RDP __________________ Back in the Day

11-22-07, 10:23 PM	#7
gimpy117 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Kalamazoo, MI Posts: 3,243 Downloads: 108 Uploads: 0	one loked like the sub had mass, 2 looked like it was getting tossed around a bit too much

12-10-07, 07:58 AM	#8
EAGLE_01 Machinist's Mate Join Date: May 2007 Location: Dayton, OH. Posts: 127 Downloads: 46 Uploads: 0	So, How's it coming? I've been looking forward to this mod.....

01-03-08, 09:02 PM	#10
FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	#2 is my choice but don't stare at the video to long "URP" I better get back to playing and get my sea legs back. That clip made me a little woozy. __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???

01-04-08, 05:03 AM	#11
Thendash Seaman Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: B.C. Canada Posts: 36 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	I thought take 1 looked better. Take 2 looked like it was going against the waves, like the waves were coming from right to left but it looked like it was rolling left to right(If that makes sense). Same with the up and down bit, yeah the waves "crashed" over the bow but it looked like it should have been riding the waves a bit more and go over them instead of under them like in take 2. Maybe a combo of the two would be best, have a bit of the wave go over the bow but not so much that it looks like the sub is duking under the wave like a surfer.

01-04-08, 08:34 AM	#12
The General The Old Man Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Mountain Ash, Wales, U.K. Posts: 1,548 Downloads: 179 Uploads: 3	Rock 'n' Roll As in aerodynamics, 'Roll' is the side to side movement, not 'Pitch' as you seem to be refering to it. Pitch is the movent from bow to stern. Like when you dive nose down. I would like to see video of a stationary Sub, Pitching & Rolling in the swell, before I vote on which configuration I prefer. This is good work though. The physics of surface vessels is something that's never been great in SH4, especially the sub that appears to travel on rails like the shark did in Jaws. __________________ *THE GENERAL*