AMD Vs Intel

scrag · 11-22-07, 05:38 PM

Been a while since I contemplated getting a machine - everything is PCI and I am torn between the two as well as the different video cards - ATI Vs Nvidea (running Nvidea currently). I do not play the amount of games I used to play - frankly SHIII/IV are the most played for now. I know I need to buy enough machine to get me over the next couple of years so I am looking for input (also contemplating Vista but so far I am not impressed with it for gaming)
I am looking for suggestions.

mookiemookie · 11-22-07, 05:46 PM

www.tomshardware.com

Doolittle81 · 11-22-07, 11:59 PM

ASUS P5N32-E SLI, 680i
Dual core E6700 Cpu (Mobo upgradeable to Quad-Core)
2GB OCZ PC2 8800 (1100Mhz) RAM (Mobo upgradeable to 4Gb)
BFG 8800GTX Graphics card (Mobo upgradable to two 8800 cards in SLI
Audigy2 ZS
4 Seagate 400GB hard drives in a 0+1 RAID array
Plextor PX-800A
Samsung 24" Widescreen LCD Monitor 1920X1200 native
Windows VISTA 32bit

stabiz · 11-23-07, 04:23 AM

Do NOT buy the 8800GTX when the new 8800GT performs 10% less and costs 50% less. The 8800GTS that is reported to be out in december/january will perform like the current 8800 Ultra, and will cost a little bir more than the new 8800GT. In short, the GTX`s and the Ultras are redundant.

Reno · 11-23-07, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by stabiz

Do NOT buy the 8800GTX when the new 8800GT performs 10% less and costs 50% less. The 8800GTS that is reported to be out in december/january will perform like the current 8800 Ultra, and will cost a little bir more than the new 8800GT. In short, the GTX`s and the Ultras are redundant.

Might want to do some checking first. More than enough evidence from owners of the 8800GT that there are some serious issues. Overheating's the big one as is incompatibility with some motherboards and the need for bigger and better power supplies. Read the Nvidia forums. Better yet, just google "8800gt problems". Aftermarket cooling is the main topic followed closely by problems with motherboards, power supplies, and inability to run games at higher resolutions. Serious money is being spent on aftermarket cooling, beefier power supplies, and motherboards trying to make these cards perform as they should. Couple this with the frustration and time spent and it's suddenly not a bargain after all. I've had the 8800GTX since they first came out over a year ago and have never had a problem either with overheating or performance. They are still one of the best cards out there and well worth the money spent. I always play at max settings and smile at the results. The GTX has been out for awhile now and is still the card all others are compared too. As soon as I get a higher resolution monitor, (currently 1680 x 1050) I'll probably get another to SLI. Bottom line, don't believe hype. Reviews are only snapshots in time and don't always reflect the real world. I may have paid more but for almost a year now I've played and experienced the games the way they were meant to be. And, like the commercial says, that's "priceless".

Brenjen · 11-23-07, 11:32 AM

I play SH4 & many other games just fine on my older machine. I'm not saying it's out of date old; it was top of the line a couple years ago. My specs are:

ASUS A8N SLI Premium socket 939 (mature not ancient)

AMD64 FX-60 dual core CPU (overclocked to 3ghz for my amusement)

2 x 1gig sticks of Patriot DDR (upgradable to 4)

Creative Labs Audigy 2 ZS sound card

eVGA 7950 GX2 (overclocked to 595 core & 1600 memory also for amusement)

Antec 550 watt true power power supply

Windows XP home (I'm cheap like that,I had pro on another machine & it's not worth the extra price imo)

My CPU & GPU(s) are water cooled by Danger Den

My system rips through everything on high settings that I've played so far. I built this system for Aces High & it performed well; if you have ever played that game you'll know how it bogs down systems. I reccomend eVGA strictly on the basis of warranty & customer service; they are second to no one. I'd also stay far away from Vista for a few years & let everyone else test it. The video cards are the real quandry; DX10 is coming sooner than later & video cards are way too expensive. In short whatever video card you get you'll have to live with a while unless you're made out of money & the better the video card the more power it'll need (as a general rule), so do not skimp on your power supply, get a good one - good reputation & high wattage output. Newegg is an excellent place for PC parts & they can sometimes get you your stuff in under 24 hours depending on where you live.

Torps · 11-23-07, 05:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scrag

Been a while since I contemplated getting a machine - everything is PCI and I am torn between the two as well as the different video cards - ATI Vs Nvidea (running Nvidea currently). I do not play the amount of games I used to play - frankly SHIII/IV are the most played for now. I know I need to buy enough machine to get me over the next couple of years so I am looking for input (also contemplating Vista but so far I am not impressed with it for gaming)
I am looking for suggestions.

Here you go http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/11/...eb/page22.html

silent killer · 11-23-07, 08:08 AM

i am using ak9ag neo2-digital main board with an amd dual core 6000 cpu, 2gigs of corsair ddr2 ram and a bfg 8800/320oc vidio card on windows vista. no problems running the game.

11-22-07, 05:38 PM	#1
scrag Medic Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Pearl Harbor, Hawaii Posts: 161 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	AMD Vs Intel Been a while since I contemplated getting a machine - everything is PCI and I am torn between the two as well as the different video cards - ATI Vs Nvidea (running Nvidea currently). I do not play the amount of games I used to play - frankly SHIII/IV are the most played for now. I know I need to buy enough machine to get me over the next couple of years so I am looking for input (also contemplating Vista but so far I am not impressed with it for gaming) I am looking for suggestions. __________________

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11-23-07, 04:23 AM	#4
stabiz Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Norway Posts: 4,224 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	Do NOT buy the 8800GTX when the new 8800GT performs 10% less and costs 50% less. The 8800GTS that is reported to be out in december/january will perform like the current 8800 Ultra, and will cost a little bir more than the new 8800GT. In short, the GTX`s and the Ultras are redundant. __________________

11-23-07, 08:08 AM	#8
silent killer Soundman Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Kingston Ontario Posts: 141 Downloads: 49 Uploads: 0	machine i am using ak9ag neo2-digital main board with an amd dual core 6000 cpu, 2gigs of corsair ddr2 ram and a bfg 8800/320oc vidio card on windows vista. no problems running the game.

11-23-07, 11:32 AM	#6
Brenjen Machinist's Mate Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: I live in The U.S. South Posts: 127 Downloads: 44 Uploads: 0	I play SH4 & many other games just fine on my older machine. I'm not saying it's out of date old; it was top of the line a couple years ago. My specs are: ASUS A8N SLI Premium socket 939 (mature not ancient) AMD64 FX-60 dual core CPU (overclocked to 3ghz for my amusement) 2 x 1gig sticks of Patriot DDR (upgradable to 4) Creative Labs Audigy 2 ZS sound card eVGA 7950 GX2 (overclocked to 595 core & 1600 memory also for amusement) Antec 550 watt true power power supply Windows XP home (I'm cheap like that,I had pro on another machine & it's not worth the extra price imo) My CPU & GPU(s) are water cooled by Danger Den My system rips through everything on high settings that I've played so far. I built this system for Aces High & it performed well; if you have ever played that game you'll know how it bogs down systems. I reccomend eVGA strictly on the basis of warranty & customer service; they are second to no one. I'd also stay far away from Vista for a few years & let everyone else test it. The video cards are the real quandry; DX10 is coming sooner than later & video cards are way too expensive. In short whatever video card you get you'll have to live with a while unless you're made out of money & the better the video card the more power it'll need (as a general rule), so do not skimp on your power supply, get a good one - good reputation & high wattage output. Newegg is an excellent place for PC parts & they can sometimes get you your stuff in under 24 hours depending on where you live.