Aircraft Attacks on Patrols are unreal

[Mocdra]

In the Area araound Japan, and i mean araound the Wide Area around Japan..
Surface Moving with a Sub at Day without Aircraft Attacks all 10 to 30 Minutes is not possible. Whein i surfaced.. On Arcraft Attack after another one, like on a Chain without any Break. Has the Enemy to many Planees or is my Sub a so important Target, or is nothing others to do as ruin the Days of many Sub Skippers?.
So i am damned to wait at periscope Depth to the Night for surface an continuing cruising, then where Aircraft not on Patrol.
I have only the Night for Moving on the Surface !! that is not real
It is like what the German Subs in the Late 43 and 44 encountered with the alliied Air superiority, where numerous allied Planes hunt every german Sub at Day.

In the War the Japan Aircraft Patrol Net was`nt so intensive and tight !.

Greetings

Moc

[Torplexed]

Yikes! Air in this game sounds more like the Bay of Biscay 1943.

[Ducimus]

It's been fixed, adjusted, modded, whatever you want to call it. I hardly see planes anymore, i think i overdid it. Part of the problem was a funky bug found by tater. Again, workaround was made.

[Rockin Robbins]

Has anyone actually done a study of subcaptains who liked to patrol on the surface (count me in as part of that group) and determined what plane frequency actually was near Japan?

[ironkross]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

It's been fixed, adjusted, modded, whatever you want to call it. I hardly see planes anymore, i think i overdid it. Part of the problem was a funky bug found by tater. Again, workaround was made.

I've been using TM and got attacked about 2 times a day patroling the E China sea on my last patrol. Recieved a message of new Japanese airfield on Luzon and sure enough got spotted on the surface and attacked when I got closer. Overall I thought it realistically recreated the number of patrol aircraft and attacks.

[SteamWake]

Yes in vanilla SH4 the air patrols are relentless but are easly modded.

At least they got the radar fixed so you get some advance notice now you should have tried prior to 1.3 :p

By the way it was standard operating procedure to run submerged by day if for on other reason but to avoid detection.

[Mocdra]

By the way it was standard operating procedure to run submerged by day if for on other reason but to avoid detection.

Thats not true...
Us Boats operates Surfaced on Patrol. Only near Harbors or Airfields etc, along enemy coasts is submerged Moving at Day standard Operation Mode, even to avoid detection from the enemy.
Only on the Surface is the Crew Able to detect other Ships with the Bridge Lookouts ( Smokestacks , antennas etc). In the first War years the Standard Detection procedure.
Submerged the Crew have only the Hydrophones ( with a shorter range as normal visual sight in the WWII) and the Periscope( shorter visual range due the lower Point of view).
Then again... Why now should operate a WWII Boat suberged at Day.
Modern Nuclear Boats better detecting ships an others by operating nearly permanentely submerged and detects it with Sonar; The Range is over the half whole Ocean.
Visual Sight is here very secondary


Submerging on normal open Water Patrol is ordered at the detectet EXISTENCE of Air and Sea Threats or an attack from them. Then the submerged Day Convoy Attack etc.

Then the Japanese did`nt had these Number of Aircraft to cover the whole Ocean several hundres Miles in Radius AROUND the Japanese Islands and Bases to trigger such Attack frequencies an strongness..
Example: Attacks from Flying Boats comes with 2 or 3 Aircraft at once all 10-30 mins... !!
Who **** these Planes into the Sky ?! or have anyone open a Bag with these ??

First Cold War Diesel Electric Subs was fully submerged over the Day !.
Only Nuclear Subs are most submerged and surfacing rare times.
Modern Subs are real Underwater Ships. WWII Boats was`nt !.

I´ve readed some Books about Subs in WWII !. Thats the Source.

Greetings

Moc