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Old 10-18-07, 10:18 AM   #1
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Default Am I TOO good a skipper?

Well, I know I'm not the best, but I'm just wondering if I'm sinking too many ships? Granted, I play on full realism minus the manual TDC, but I still think my sinkings are far too high.

I'm on patrol 4 I believe, and each cruise I rack up about 40-50k tons. I look at the log board back at Pearl and I've got something like 124k tons to my name, the next highest has about 30k. I'm running Trigger Maru and that's really it for gameplay enhancements. Is it because there are too many ships?

In SH3 I used manual targetting, but I would use the weapons office to calculate a solution for me, I didn't see that option in SH4? Or am I missing something? I'd like to go back to this setup.

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Old 10-18-07, 10:19 AM   #2
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Use the manual targeting. Your tonnage WILL go down.

As far as I know, the weapons officer solution function isn't present in SH4
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Old 10-18-07, 10:23 AM   #3
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I was sort of dreading that answer, as I thought the Officer option struck a good balance. I'll have to run some training missions and see how I do.

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Old 10-18-07, 10:30 AM   #4
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Yes, it is partly because you encounter way too many ships. If it was truly realistic, a lot of people would never buy it.
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It is after all a game.
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Old 10-18-07, 10:46 AM   #6
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I think tater's improved campaign layers are a godsend. I really enjoy the reduced and smaller contacts. It makes sinking the big ones so much more rewarding.

If you see an unescorted huge european liner every day, it becomes no big deal. If you see one maybe once or twice a career and everytime, it's escorted by 3 DD's, your heart starts pounding a little faster when you move in for the kill.

Maybe you should try that mod, jbt. It can be found here: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=116283
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Old 10-18-07, 10:48 AM   #7
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Default Tonnage per cruise

In my experience running manual targeting, cruise tonnage of 30-50 kilotons is difficult to avoid. I do not reload and double-dip a cruise. This is a defect in the simulation in my judgment, but it does nothing to lessen my enjoyment of the game.

Taking US war averages of 1 ship sunk for every 6 torpedoes expended, your load of 24 torpedoes should sink 4 ships x 5,000 tons for a decent sized merchant = 20k tons. It's easy to see that we're overachievers here from the average.

That's because we can get close to one ship for every 3 torpedoes. But it is a game and gameplay must sometimes take precedence over realism or we wouldn't have players. Every once in awhile I like to do a mission with super torpedoes and play a little Quake just to have some excessive fun.
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Something else to look into is mods that make it more challenging. For instance the Natural Sinking Mechanics mod.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=118005

It makes it more challenging to sink a ship. Read the thread to see why.
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I believe the NSM is actually part of Trigger Maru, and I've had some issues with it in the past where ships would just refuse to sink.

As another poster said, I think the amount of shipping is way too high, and should it be lessened, sinking the larger stuff would be much more of a "deal" rather than seeing them on every cruise.
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I have rethought the situation

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Well, I know I'm not the best, but I'm just wondering if I'm sinking too many ships? Granted, I play on full realism minus the manual TDC, but I still think my sinkings are far too high.
I have run your numbers through my double-layer abacus for 48 hours and have bad news for you. You ARE too good. A representative from SUBSIM will be calling at your house within 3 business days to confiscate your DVD. We sincerely regret any inconvenience this may cause but our obligation to protect scarce Japanese shipping resources outweighs our concern for your wellbeing.

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I have run your numbers through my double-layer abacus for 48 hours and have bad news for you. You ARE too good. A representative from SUBSIM will be calling at your house within 3 business days to confiscate your DVD.
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Well, I know I'm not the best, but I'm just wondering if I'm sinking too many ships? Granted, I play on full realism minus the manual TDC, but I still think my sinkings are far too high.
I have run your numbers through my double-layer abacus for 48 hours and have bad news for you. You ARE too good. A representative from SUBSIM will be calling at your house within 3 business days to confiscate your DVD. We sincerely regret any inconvenience this may cause but our obligation to protect scarce Japanese shipping resources outweighs our concern for your wellbeing.

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Old 10-19-07, 04:18 PM   #13
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I'm pretty new to SH4, so I was amazed at the veritable plague of ships infesting the seas, it was of Biblical proportions. I couldn't believe the IJN was that huge.

Now with Tater's campaign layers mod I just ran a patrol with just a single ship spotted (sunk). It was a nice break from the monotony of sinking ship after ship after ship, limited only by how fast I could generate solutions and push the Fire button (and number of torps, of course).

OTOH, you just might be a lot better than you think you are!
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