"Legalise all drugs"

[Steel_Tomb]

:rotfl::rotfl::rotflk the mad mulla of the traffic taleban (Richard Brunstrom) has officially lost his mind. http://uk.news.yahoo.com/pressass/20...6323e80_2.html

Hes currently under investigation for showing pictures of a decapitated motorcyclist in a anti-speeding campaign WITHOUT getting permission from the family. Hes got a history of rediculous and controversial proposals. Now he wants drugs to be legalised??? Madness!

...or is it just a cover so he can go smoke without fear of prosicution lol...for some of the stuff he comes up with it wouldn't surprise me if he was a crack head! :rotfl:

[jumpy]

I have to agree...












...that the current system of prohibition has failed on all fronts to prevent, curtail or otherwise hinder the use, trafficking and sale of drugs.
Rather than burying our heads in the sand going 'lalalalalalalala drugs are illegal and bad mmmkay?' and refusing to try anything new to solve the problem, we ought to consider ideas that, whilst might not show up very well for a politicians reputation as a squeaky clean self promoting weathervane, may provide an avenue of progress to reduce the consumption of these substances.

At the very least the seriously addictive drugs like heroin would fall under the supervision of medical staff and remove the criminal element both selling and committing crime to fund a life of endless addiction.

Anything has got to be better than the current mess we are in which is so far away from helping the issue.

[Steel_Tomb]

Well if you think about it a majority of drugs have to be imported. If we had tighter customs laws and monitored our boarders more effectively, there would be less of a problem. There are alternatives to get people off drugs too like methadone etc. By legalising drugs it would make it harder to get people off them. You couldn't touch dealers because they would then say "whats the problem, its legal!"
I personally think such a move would be a big step back. Yes, perhaps a review of the law is needed, but to legalise all drugs is pure insanity! It hardly sends out the message of "don't do drugs" to younger people like myself...more like "go ahead, we don't care, you won't get in trouble for it!"

[Letum]

I think everyone should have as much freedom as they can up until a point where they
a nuisance or a hazard to other peoples property, freedoms, person or rights.

Now, you could take drugs without causing a nuisance or a hazard to other peoples
property, freedoms, person or rights. However, for most drugs, more often than not,
this is not the case.

Therefore I think they should remain illegal; which is a shame.

[Steel_Tomb]

The other problem, is while the may not be an immidiate threat to others, the damage they will suffer in terms of mental illnesses from drugs costs the NHS money, money which at the moment is desperately needed.

[Letum]

Originally Posted by Steel_Tomb

The other problem, is while the may not be an immidiate threat to others, the damage they will suffer in terms of mental illnesses from drugs costs the NHS money, money which at the moment is desperately needed.

Well, I think the NHS should be able to claim money or refuse treatment to people who
cause them selves injury or illness whist being in sound mind.

[jumpy]

Putting a smackhead in prison because they committed theft to fund a habit they cannot break is not helping them to quit. Removing dealers from the equation removes the need for the junkie to steal to furnish his habit and having the drugs in a controlled environment where purity can be assessed, preventing deaths from overdose etc means the chances of doctors being able to wean users off their addiction are significantly improved.
As an example I think it'd work rather well. Trouble is it first requires admission that the current system helps no-one. Bring on the finger pointing and blame game politicians.

For many years I have had a job and responsibility whilst at the same time enjoying the occasional tipple of various things. For those that can behave in a reasonable manner, being labelled a criminal because I favour one activity over going into town on a friday or saturday night, drinking a skin-full then having a fight, seems to me to be part of the root of the problem. Like prostitution, drugs are a social taboo (despite the fact that just about everybody uses them) that we sweep under the carpet rather than facing up to the truth. People like to get high; since the dawn of civilisation man has searched for ways to get off his face for any number of social, cultural or religious reasons. Modern drug use differs very little in this respect. All that has changed is our perception of it.

I don't believe drugs ought to be 'freely available to the public'. In the case of heroin the priority must be netting existing users and usurping their street supply with properly controlled distribution centres. In the case of other lesser class substances, possession ought not to be a criminal offence if there is no indication of intent to supply. The current hypocrisy where the government taxes two quite dangerous and insidious drugs whilst in the same breath declaring everyone else who uses substances that (in essence) are not currently taxable is what I consider to be criminal. Things are changing with that last one, but very slowly.

As far as health issues and the money to treat them is concerned, we hardly suffer from a pandemic of mental illness or disease as a direct result of the consumption of drugs. A better argument for the correct spending of money on our NHS could be satisfied in the following manner:

"Chuck another couple of hospitals on the fire"
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/mai.../sofron111.xml
Construction of these modern day folly's differs nought from the past where rich lords would have a building constructed for the sake of displaying their wealth- look how much cash I can waste on something with no purpose! Except for the fact that they are spending taxpayers money to do this.

Prestigious event? Yes. A complete waste of money that could be better allocated elsewhere? Damn right.

The same applies to the allocation of billions of pounds to developing nations that stubbornly refuse to stay developed. Look after and secure the welfare of your own addicts, homeless people and poor first then you can start thinking about your debt to relieving other nations who require help. That's only common sense. 'Meet the Natives' on UK tv the other week illustrated this very well when the 'primitive' tribesmen came to see the wonders of modern society and were astounded and shocked that we have people living rough on the streets in the midst of so much splendour and affluence. How can this be? they asked incredulously . How indeed.

I pay national insurance an lead a moderate lifestyle, so any injury I sustain as a result of my occasional indulgence I have already paid for, that thus far most of nhs spending seems to go to managers, useless computer systems and treatment of those who contribute nothing in return is what I object to.

The whole system of control of drugs needs to be changed and managed by people who actually live in the real world, not some guy in a wig at the top of an ivory tower, who most likely enjoys a line of coke as much as the next guy.
And it's that last that puts the whole situation into horrible perspective for me.

[bookworm_020]

Ask the people who have to dael with theose on the drug ICE (police, medical wokers) and see if they want open season on drugs! I think not!

http://www.mja.com.au/public/issues/...l11359_fm.html

http://www.salvos.org.au/need-help/the-facts/ice.php

[TteFAboB]

You guys ever heard of illegal and fake cigarrettes? http://www.cancer.org/downloads/AA/TobaccoAtlas17.pdf; http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4096911.stm

Legalising drugs wouldn't get rid of the black-market, but provide traffickers and smugglers with a secondary source of income. The market would be quickly divided between criminals and the pharmaceutical industry.

There are two kinds of drug users: the addict and the recreational (or occasional). The first needs help, the second just needs to switch to pharmaceuticals so that he doesn't finance crime.

Then, in the case of Europe and the UK, we just sit and wait for Islam to clean the land of drug addicts by implanting its superior culture: http://www.inter-islam.org/Prohibitions/drugs.htm