Jap Merchant AI Gunnery

ridgewayranger · 10-10-07, 05:09 AM

Hi All,
I've been shocked and surprised by the Jap Merchant Ship gunnery. Even after firing 100 rounds into a ship the guns are still firing very accurately. They open fire with this same accuracy at ridiculously long range and have cost me 3 commands so far. As the superstructure slides below the water they are still firing!
Question 1. Why cannot these guns be put out of action?
2. Can the accuracy be reduced to a more realistic level?
3. Can the acquisition range be reduced?
On another subject why, when I start a fire, does it appear to burn in square boxes?
RR.

cdrsubron7 · 10-10-07, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by ridgewayranger

Hi All,
I've been shocked and surprised by the Jap Merchant Ship gunnery. Even after firing 100 rounds into a ship the guns are still firing very accurately. They open fire with this same accuracy at ridiculously long range and have cost me 3 commands so far. As the superstructure slides below the water they are still firing!
Question 1. Why cannot these guns be put out of action?
2. Can the accuracy be reduced to a more realistic level?
3. Can the acquisition range be reduced?
On another subject why, when I start a fire, does it appear to burn in square boxes?
RR.

Have to agree with you on the accuracy on the gunners on the Japanese merchants.

As for the problem with the fire burning like square box check out the following page of the same quaestion I asked the other day. You'll find a fix here.

Wilcke · 10-10-07, 11:54 AM

Just to add to the knowledge base....can the sub guns destroy enemy gun mounts on merchant type vessels (simple mounts no shields)...of course if one were to engage such targets on the surface....I never would...right...no...well...maybe....occasionally. .LOL.

Wilcke

ridgewayranger · 10-10-07, 12:06 PM

Thanks, cdrsubron7, for your reply, but I'm not sure to what you are referring. Have tried searching but to no avail.
RR

Steeltrap · 10-11-07, 07:17 PM

Fact is that USA sub commanders would not engage armed Jap merchant ships. The Japs were very good gunners generally and, with a poor/non-existant convoy system, merchants did expect to defend themselves. What's more, a single hit from any decent gun (3" or greater) had a very real chance of leaving the sub crippled.

In other words, you shouldn't be exchanging gunfire with ANY Jap ship, be it Navy or merchant.

joegrundman · 10-11-07, 08:13 PM

Think about what happened to the USS Grunion. Although there are various questions still unanswered about it, the certainties are that she was hit by a single shell from a japanese merchant while submerged and was never seen again.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Grunion

10-10-07, 05:09 AM	#1
ridgewayranger Frogman Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Ipswich, England Posts: 302 Downloads: 281 Uploads: 0	Jap Merchant AI Gunnery Hi All, I've been shocked and surprised by the Jap Merchant Ship gunnery. Even after firing 100 rounds into a ship the guns are still firing very accurately. They open fire with this same accuracy at ridiculously long range and have cost me 3 commands so far. As the superstructure slides below the water they are still firing! Question 1. Why cannot these guns be put out of action? 2. Can the accuracy be reduced to a more realistic level? 3. Can the acquisition range be reduced? On another subject why, when I start a fire, does it appear to burn in square boxes? RR.

10-10-07, 12:06 PM	#4
ridgewayranger Frogman Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Ipswich, England Posts: 302 Downloads: 281 Uploads: 0	Fires in boxes Thanks, cdrsubron7, for your reply, but I'm not sure to what you are referring. Have tried searching but to no avail. RR

10-11-07, 08:13 PM	#6
joegrundman Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 2,689 Downloads: 34 Uploads: 0	Think about what happened to the USS Grunion. Although there are various questions still unanswered about it, the certainties are that she was hit by a single shell from a japanese merchant while submerged and was never seen again. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Grunion __________________ "Enemy submarines are to be called U-Boats. The term submarine is to be reserved for Allied under water vessels. U-Boats are those dastardly villains who sink our ships, while submarines are those gallant and noble craft which sink theirs." Winston Churchill

10-10-07, 11:54 AM	#3
Wilcke The Old Man Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,441 Downloads: 234 Uploads: 0	Just to add to the knowledge base....can the sub guns destroy enemy gun mounts on merchant type vessels (simple mounts no shields)...of course if one were to engage such targets on the surface....I never would...right...no...well...maybe....occasionally. .LOL. Wilcke

10-11-07, 07:17 PM	#5
Steeltrap Grey Wolf Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 818 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Fact is that USA sub commanders would not engage armed Jap merchant ships. The Japs were very good gunners generally and, with a poor/non-existant convoy system, merchants did expect to defend themselves. What's more, a single hit from any decent gun (3" or greater) had a very real chance of leaving the sub crippled. In other words, you shouldn't be exchanging gunfire with ANY Jap ship, be it Navy or merchant.