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Old 10-09-07, 07:49 PM   #1
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http://www.courttv.com/news/2007/1009/kiss_ap.html

A woman goes on trial for having left lipstick on a piece of modern art, or better the carricature of art, a painting that is called "White Star" by Cy Twombling. And as the title suggest, the painting is a whity whiter-than-white White. It is so white that it costs over 2.8 million dollars, and sees the woman being sued for I think 6500 dollars. The ingenious creator of this white White wanted her to pay 2.9 million dollars.

I really wanted to show you what this White Star was looking like, but as a matter of fact it is so meaningless since it is simply a frame surrounding a white White that Google Picture did not give me any results on it - probably never ever has anyone cared to put up this masterpiece, becasue people would think that their monitor is broken. However, if you see these pictures, you certainly will see my argument when I just ask: where is the art?

http://www.iconoduel.org/images-site...itled_1970.jpg

http://www.londonkoreanlinks.net/blo...2/twombly3.jpg

http://www.thecityreview.com/f04ccon1z.jpg

"White star" even does not feature the artist's difficult effort to create lines with his pencil. It only is white on white, with white background and white foreground, all of the same white. I saw it on TV. I think it was a piece of unused empty paper.

The only art here is how to turn that into 2.8 million dollars. This art is old and has a long tradition. It is called alchemy: turning lead into gold.

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Old 10-09-07, 08:00 PM   #2
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Didn't Las Vegas promoter Fred Gwinn (not sure of the name) put his elbow through a Picaso or something like that.
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Old 10-09-07, 09:03 PM   #3
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How on earth can someone want to charge 2.9 million for that i mean seriously it is not art it is just a bunch of lines.
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Old 10-10-07, 12:01 AM   #4
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She should pay costs of damage, i.e., whatever it takes to restore it. If it cannot be restored 100%, a certain additional value, based on a reasonable assessment of the object's decline in value, should also be paid.

Nobody forced this idiot to kiss another idiots work. Pay the price.

Let me end off by saying that I view much of what's called "modern art" as a farse.
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I would have to say that her lips probably made it more entertaining than it ever was by itself.
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Old 10-10-07, 01:38 AM   #6
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I reckon an imprint of my buttocks would increase the value of the artwork in question as well as give my opion of this artwork!
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Old 10-12-07, 02:57 PM   #7
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Let me end off by saying that I view much of what's called "modern art" as a farse.
They said the same things about Mary Cassatt, Pierre-August Renior and Edgar Degas when they were creating works. 100 years later, we hold them as the standard. The jury will be out on both Twombling and Skybird's works for probably that long as well.
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But I wanted to get burned and strayed into the wind after my death. So how could I turn in my grave in case Tak's vision becomes a reality...? Should I erect a mast with a wind turbine before dying?
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[QUOTE=Takeda Shingen]
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Let me end off by saying that I view much of what's called "modern art" as a farse.
They said the same things about Mary Cassatt, Pierre-August Renior and Edgar Degas when they were creating works. 100 years later, we hold them as the standard./QUOTE]
I refuse to be a populist.
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How on earth can someone want to charge 2.9 million for that i mean seriously it is not art it is just a bunch of lines.
"White Star" even features no lines! Delete the word "star" from the title.
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Jerusalem's Israel Museum has its own share of modern art trash. A few years ago, when we went, there was a work consisting of a giant pile of spice cloves piled on the floor in the center of an exhibit room.

My husband crouched down next to it, as if to get a closer look. Then he started to put on an act that he's about to have a sneeze attack.

A-H..... A-H..... A-H .....

You should have seen the guard jump!
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My hometown just has ended it's "season of sculptures", which saw around 60 of such "sculptures" scattered around locations in the city area. A wastebin here, with a student guard. a random generator producing meaningless words there, with a student guard. A pile or rubbish, with a student guard. Half a dozen of opened umbrellas, with a student guard.

High arts, really. Especially note the high level of craftsmanship. It costed the taxpayer several hundred thousand Euros. I assume it were the fees for the guards reading comics when sitting close to the masterpieces.
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Modern art,

I recall that as

take enough drugs, then even a pile of dog poo wil look amazing and is worth millions..
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god! even i could make some smudges and call it art... mayby i will get famous to :hmm:
if this is "modern" (baby) art.. then what will the art be in the future ?
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god! even i could make some smudges and call it art... mayby i will get famous to :hmm:
if this is "modern" (baby) art.. then what will the art be in the future ?
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