Deciding when/if to buy SH4

Mystic · 07-27-07, 09:13 AM

1) I regrettably passed on SH3 because of Starforce. I understand that SF was not used on SH4 ... however, I recall some early reports of similar problems (with DVD-RW drives and such) with the new copy protection on SH4, right after the game's release, and so I stopped paying much attention thereafter. Now that a lot of time has elapsed, is there a consensus on SH4 and its propensity (or lack thereof) to not run properly or even screw up computers because of copy protection? (After SH3 I continue to be extremely wary of Ubisoft in this regard.)

2) The system I would run SH4 on if I were to get it today is an Athlon 64 3000+ (which runs at 2GHz), 1GB of RAM and a Radeon 9800 Pro 256MB videocard. The recommended specs for the game don't seem to differentiate between clock rates on the Intel and the AMD chips, so even though the Athlon 64 3000+ is roughly performance equivalent to a 3Ghz Pentium 4, I don't know if it just barely meets the game's minimum specs, or the recommended ones. I'm also concerned that the video card might be at the "bare minimum" level as well. Any thoughts? Should I look into upgrading my system before attempting to run SH4?

3) I still see a lot of complaints about SH4 needing more patching, and not having been completed to the same degree as SH3. Well, not having played SH3, the newest comparable sim I have is SH2. How does SH4 after patch 1.3 compare to SH2 in terms of completeness, AI quality, bugs, etc.?

TDK1044 · 07-27-07, 09:18 AM

Get SH 4. Patch it to 1.3 and you can run it with no DVD in the Drive. Add Trigger Maru 1.4 as a mod and add 1 GIG oF RAM to your system if you can afford to do so.

Patched and modded as above, SH4 is now the best WWII subsim ever in my opinion.

SteamWake · 07-27-07, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Mystic

3) I still see a lot of complaints about SH4 needing more patching, and not having been completed to the same degree as SH3.

Yea Ive heard that too... :rotfl:

Listen Im not going to say it couldent use a bit more work but frankly its a solid game.

ReallyDedPoet · 07-27-07, 09:36 AM

Great game ( still a few issues ), lots of mods, upgrade your system a bit as has been mentioned and you are set to go.

RDP

mookiemookie · 07-27-07, 09:49 AM

The minor flaws remaining shouldn't keep you from buying the game.

Wilcke · 07-27-07, 09:50 AM

Get it, patch it, add TM1.4 and add a gig of RAM, ENJOY!

Wilcke

John Channing · 07-27-07, 09:56 AM

You will have a problem with your GPU if you hope to run it at full settings. Other than that, buy it.

JCC

Sailor Steve · 07-27-07, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SteamWake

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Originally Posted by Mystic

3) I still see a lot of complaints about SH4 needing more patching, and not having been completed to the same degree as SH3.

Yea Ive heard that too... :rotfl:

Listen Im not going to say it couldent use a bit more work but frankly its a solid game.

And once again I feel compelled to repeat that many, many evil things were said about SH3, including that it wasn't completed to the same degree as anything, ever.

THE_MASK · 07-27-07, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Mystic

1) How does SH4 after patch 1.3 compare to SH2 in terms of completeness, AI quality, bugs, etc.?

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

chopped50ford · 07-27-07, 07:05 PM

one word..."awesome"

switch.dota · 07-27-07, 07:11 PM

SH IV 1.2 = so and so -- you need to be dedicated to buy it.

SH IV 1.3 + mods = great game -- no complaints.

I do like to see some issues fixed but they're really minor and not gamebreaking. CErtainly not something that would make me want to refrain from buying this game.

sqk7744 · 07-27-07, 07:27 PM

This is NOT SH2 (SH4 v1.3+mods)

Squires · 07-27-07, 07:37 PM

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3) I still see a lot of complaints about SH4 needing more patching, and not having been completed to the same degree as SH3. Well, not having played SH3, the newest comparable sim I have is SH2. How does SH4 after patch 1.3 compare to SH2 in terms of completeness, AI quality, bugs, etc.?

No matter how much patching is done people will always complain. No game company is going to please everyone. I've had the game for less than a week, but like what I see so far.

I run just fine with 1GB of RAM and a video card not on the compatiability list.

switch.dota · 07-27-07, 07:57 PM

For PC spec issues, know that I run the game quite well with below average graphical settings on a sub-par system:

Ath XP @ 1700+
768 MB RAM
gforce 6600 @ 256 RAM

That's quite low, except for maybe the video card. And I still enjoy it all the way.

Digital_Trucker · 07-27-07, 09:39 PM

As far as the vid card goes. I run the game quite well (albeit at other than highest video settings) with an ATI 9600 Pro 256MB card (very slightly overclocked because I can't afford to replace it) and an AMD Athlon XP 3200+ and a gig of ram.

You won't see me winning any eye candy contests, but it runs well and is not at all unpleasant to the eye.

With the right mods, the game is downright addictive (read that as immersive to the max).

07-27-07, 09:13 AM	#1
Mystic Watch Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 20 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Deciding when/if to buy SH4 1) I regrettably passed on SH3 because of Starforce. I understand that SF was not used on SH4 ... however, I recall some early reports of similar problems (with DVD-RW drives and such) with the new copy protection on SH4, right after the game's release, and so I stopped paying much attention thereafter. Now that a lot of time has elapsed, is there a consensus on SH4 and its propensity (or lack thereof) to not run properly or even screw up computers because of copy protection? (After SH3 I continue to be extremely wary of Ubisoft in this regard.) 2) The system I would run SH4 on if I were to get it today is an Athlon 64 3000+ (which runs at 2GHz), 1GB of RAM and a Radeon 9800 Pro 256MB videocard. The recommended specs for the game don't seem to differentiate between clock rates on the Intel and the AMD chips, so even though the Athlon 64 3000+ is roughly performance equivalent to a 3Ghz Pentium 4, I don't know if it just barely meets the game's minimum specs, or the recommended ones. I'm also concerned that the video card might be at the "bare minimum" level as well. Any thoughts? Should I look into upgrading my system before attempting to run SH4? 3) I still see a lot of complaints about SH4 needing more patching, and not having been completed to the same degree as SH3. Well, not having played SH3, the newest comparable sim I have is SH2. How does SH4 after patch 1.3 compare to SH2 in terms of completeness, AI quality, bugs, etc.?

07-27-07, 09:36 AM	#4
ReallyDedPoet Canadian Wolf Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canada. The one and only, East Coast Posts: 10,886 Downloads: 946 Uploads: 5	Great game ( still a few issues ), lots of mods, upgrade your system a bit as has been mentioned and you are set to go. RDP __________________ Back in the Day

07-27-07, 09:49 AM	#5
mookiemookie Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 9,404 Downloads: 105 Uploads: 1	The minor flaws remaining shouldn't keep you from buying the game. __________________ They don’t think it be like it is, but it do. Want more U-boat Kaleun portraits for your SH3 Commander Profiles? Download the SH3 Commander Portrait Pack here.

07-27-07, 07:05 PM	#10
chopped50ford Weps Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Bentonville, AR Posts: 367 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	one word..."awesome" __________________ TM2(SS) USS Asheville - Plankowner, Shellback, "Order of the Ditch" http://ths-i.com/

07-27-07, 07:27 PM	#12
sqk7744 Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: ~About 60' below Posts: 1,150 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	This is NOT SH2 (SH4 v1.3+mods) __________________ " All Ships can dive, but only Submarine's surface!" MODS: KillFlags - Elco PT109 - AOB Attack Course Tutorial

07-27-07, 09:18 AM	#2
TDK1044 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 2,674 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	Get SH 4. Patch it to 1.3 and you can run it with no DVD in the Drive. Add Trigger Maru 1.4 as a mod and add 1 GIG oF RAM to your system if you can afford to do so. Patched and modded as above, SH4 is now the best WWII subsim ever in my opinion.

07-27-07, 09:50 AM	#6
Wilcke The Old Man Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,441 Downloads: 234 Uploads: 0	Get it, patch it, add TM1.4 and add a gig of RAM, ENJOY! Wilcke

07-27-07, 09:56 AM	#7
John Channing Sea Lord Join Date: Sep 1998 Posts: 1,846 Downloads: 163 Uploads: 5	You will have a problem with your GPU if you hope to run it at full settings. Other than that, buy it. JCC

07-27-07, 07:11 PM	#11
switch.dota Captain Join Date: May 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 492 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	SH IV 1.2 = so and so -- you need to be dedicated to buy it. SH IV 1.3 + mods = great game -- no complaints. I do like to see some issues fixed but they're really minor and not gamebreaking. CErtainly not something that would make me want to refrain from buying this game.

07-27-07, 07:57 PM	#14
switch.dota Captain Join Date: May 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 492 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	For PC spec issues, know that I run the game quite well with below average graphical settings on a sub-par system: Ath XP @ 1700+ 768 MB RAM gforce 6600 @ 256 RAM That's quite low, except for maybe the video card. And I still enjoy it all the way.

07-27-07, 09:39 PM	#15
Digital_Trucker Silent Hunter Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Peach State Posts: 4,171 Downloads: 141 Uploads: 10	As far as the vid card goes. I run the game quite well (albeit at other than highest video settings) with an ATI 9600 Pro 256MB card (very slightly overclocked because I can't afford to replace it) and an AMD Athlon XP 3200+ and a gig of ram. You won't see me winning any eye candy contests, but it runs well and is not at all unpleasant to the eye. With the right mods, the game is downright addictive (read that as immersive to the max).