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Old 07-02-07, 11:34 PM   #1
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I haven't seen this posted since 2005 on another site, but once you get your snorkel, keep it raised at all times while on the surface. If you have to crash dive the snorkel being already up will allow you to keep your diesels running an extra 3 to 4 seconds. That means your U-boat will still be pushing 16+ knots as your bow dips below 19 meters. You will rocket through the 20s and rapidly attain 35 meters in record time. In fact I do this every time I wish to do a sound check - as soon as the diesels switch off below water I cut all engines and continue to glide down without wasting my batteries. Then I blow tanks once to re-engage my diesels.

It is also important to keep your snorkel up in heavy weather as this will keep your electrics from kicking in every time a huge wave engulfs your boat.
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Old 07-03-07, 01:57 AM   #2
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I haven't seen this posted since 2005 on another site, but once you get your snorkel, keep it raised at all times while on the surface. If you have to crash dive the snorkel being already up will allow you to keep your diesels running an extra 3 to 4 seconds. That means your U-boat will still be pushing 16+ knots as your bow dips below 19 meters. You will rocket through the 20s and rapidly attain 35 meters in record time. In fact I do this every time I wish to do a sound check - as soon as the diesels switch off below water I cut all engines and continue to glide down without wasting my batteries. Then I blow tanks once to re-engage my diesels.

It is also important to keep your snorkel up in heavy weather as this will keep your electrics from kicking in every time a huge wave engulfs your boat.
Maybe good for a game but totally unrealistic, IRL snorkel was used only submersed :hmm:. But every one plays as wants :rotfl:
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Old 07-03-07, 03:18 AM   #3
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That's the topic title for: 'For Newbies'

The realism fanatics make themselves the game even harder than the simulation wants it to be. Like when waiting for good weather + submerged to reload the external torpedo reserves.
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Old 07-03-07, 03:35 AM   #4
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Dont forget that high submerged speeds with the snorkel engaged, would rip it clean off of the boat.

Technically it could only be used at relatively slow speeds. Modelled in AOD, but not SH3.
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Old 07-03-07, 03:10 PM   #5
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but it does point up one thing - Germany should have designed such a snorkel! A little extra metal to strengthen it would have saved a lot of lives. Now in the game you can travel at 15 knots with snokel up - so I will test to see if going 15 knots and diving makes a big time difference - LIKELY IT WILL - at least by adding another few knots speed to the dive. You know in the military not many are creative. But sometimes creative men do make it into war and they survive long enough to do some really interesting things.

Take "Panzer" Meyer for example. The things that guy came up with sometimes caused those around him to shake their heads with disbelief. And yet his natural asymmetrical creative ideas won many battles and turned seeming disaster into outstanding victory. I think his most asymmetrical on the spot tactic was when he ordered a platoon of Tiger I crews to take on board sacks of grenades and to drive down the enemy foxhole line throwing the grenades out of all their hatches into the enemy defenses. It causes his own troops to shake their heads in disbelief (it was certainly NOT BY THE BOOK). But it worked in splendid form. It was an emergency - a situation where no one was certain what to do and suddenly crazy Panzer Meyer showed up, barked a few wild sounding orders and in a few minutes the fortunes of the German line were restored.

Personally I believe had I been in charge of the Bismarck after its rudder was damaged I could have got the silly ship turned around with a little CAN DO effort.
I also think that the Titanic had enough crates and wood to keep everyone out of the freezing water had the Brit crew THOUGHT OUT SIDE THE BOX.

Actually some German U-boat captains did try off the wall ideas and sometimes showed good results.
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Old 07-03-07, 03:34 PM   #6
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but it does point up one thing - Germany should have designed such a snorkel! A little extra metal to strengthen it would have saved a lot of lives.
A raised snorkel would have been very visible and would have defeated the whole purpose of U-Boot design.

Remember that U-Boote were designed so that the commander's or watchman's head was the higher thing on the boat, so they could follow enemy ships keeping only the top of their masts in sight, being sure they could not be seen.

For this reason they had very short periscope lodging (not higher than the turret itself) even though this led to a very short periscope, that made difficult keeping periscope depth without having the top of the turret come out of water in rough sea. But all was designed to be functional to surface attacks (as opposed to submerged attacks).

With a raised snorkel they would have been spotted much more easily against the horizon.

Even raising the periscope (that is much smaller than the Schnorkel) while surfaced (e.g. for having better sight), was strictly forbidden fie U-Boot commanders.

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