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Old 05-24-07, 04:50 PM   #1
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Old 05-24-07, 04:57 PM   #2
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Another of many evils in the world.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/...in680658.shtml
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Another of many evils in the world.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/...in680658.shtml
Surely you aren't comparing a US prisoner death rate of .001% to what Al Quaeda does to those it captures are you?
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Old 05-24-07, 05:31 PM   #4
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http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/...in680658.shtml
Surely you aren't comparing a US prisoner death rate of .001% to what Al Quaeda does to those it captures are you?
I am comparing deaths under Al Qaeda torture to deaths under US torture. That makes sense right? Im not saying they are the same, I am just comparing them.

It's .002% btw, but that's irrelevant, there is no acceptable rate for violent torture and abuse of prisoners by AQ or the US and both should be bought to account.
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What would you call this?

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or this,





the remains

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Old 05-24-07, 05:47 PM   #6
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What would you call this?

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or this,

the remains
[pic edited out, common WG, this is a forum for all ages and dispositions; no need for that kinda thing, please link with a warning it if you must include it in your post]
What do you mean what do I call it?
It's clearly a highly tragic and malicious event.
What it is not is a excuse for more malicious actions, on any scale.

I don't quite see the point your trying to make.
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I am comparing deaths under Al Qaeda torture to deaths under US torture. That makes sense right? Im not saying they are the same, I am just comparing them.
Exactly and i'm saying there is no comparison.

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It's .002% btw, but that's irrelevant, there is no acceptable rate for violent torture and abuse of prisoners by AQ or the US and both should be bought to account.
.00166 actually, and it is highly relevant. You'll never see any army ever that won't have some of its members cross the line but unlike our enemies the US has little tolerance for it and punishes the transgressors when we catch them. AQ on the other hand glorifies torture and murder.
You don't see a basic difference in that?
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Old 05-25-07, 12:09 AM   #8
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Question: Why is the horrific image of a man plummeting to his death not worthy of a warning? That one disturbed me more than the undescriptive muck.
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It's interesting that the pictures are mostly of shaven men torturing bearded men, and that the Al-Qaeda torture safe houses have working electrical outlets.
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I wonder if it was an old Mukhabarat Interrogation Manual?
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I wonder if it was an old Mukhabarat Interrogation Manual?
That's what I'm thinking.
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My two cents -

Terrible tortuous acts are committed by one country to another country, because the country feels the other deserves it because of wrongs done to them.

You can't tell if I'm talking about them, or the US, can you?
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