Helmsman mod

Kptlt. Neuerburg · 05-04-07, 06:29 PM

I've been reading Buchhiems book The U-Boat War and was wondering if anyone at all has tryed to develop a mod that ads the area where the helmsman sits in the boat, which is inbetween the Control Room and the part where the attack periscope is inside the Conning Tower?

Raus · 05-04-07, 06:39 PM

You mean to the left and behind the bow planesman? And I don't think there is.

GoldenRivet · 05-04-07, 10:28 PM

The planesmen are in the control room, the helmsmen who controls the rudder sits up in the conning tower IIRC. with nobody occupying that station you kinda have to wonder who is driving the boat!?

on the other hand i think it might get quite lonely up there .

Jimbuna · 05-05-07, 01:18 AM

Not as far as I am aware

Sailor Steve · 05-05-07, 11:18 AM

I'm pretty sure there were two helm positions. The one in the conning tower was used when running an attack, but there was also one at the front of the control room.

A mod has been done to move the observation periscope to its proper position, but no-one has yet made the attack 'scope housing in the control room.

Photos are from U-boote Westvarts (1941) which (I think) was filmed inside an actual boat.

mr chris · 05-05-07, 11:44 AM

U-boote Westvarts was filmed aboard U124 or 123 i belive.

jcalonso · 05-10-07, 06:13 PM

Just to clarify things about the helm's position in a VIIC, i attach some pictures I found on uboat.net which clearly show the helmsman position inside the conning tower very close to the attack periscope (as per accompanying text, the photographer was pressing hard his back against the scope). I also have found some schematics of the VIIC type showing an emergency wheel for rudder control just before the aft torpedo compartment and after the battery status panel. I wonder if the big red wheel that partially shows after the panels in the photos is this emergency wheel. May some of the experts out there could further clarify these things. Here is the link to the photos: http://uboat.net/gallery/index.html?gallery=U995C . Best Regards.

Spytrx · 05-11-07, 04:41 AM

According to Hartmann it is so too - there is an excerpt from his book in another thread here that talks about it...

jcalonso · 05-12-07, 11:27 AM

Going back to the original purpose of this trend, it would be pretty cool if someone could model the rudderman in its conning tower position near the attack scope. It will involve some remodelling of the attack scope room and the inclusion of the planesman pushing the rudder hydraulic buttons. I'm pretty sure there is some modellers out there who can do this without much trouble.... Diving Duck...Anvart...?????

05-04-07, 06:29 PM	#1
Kptlt. Neuerburg Admiral Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 2,279 Downloads: 54 Uploads: 0	Helmsman mod I've been reading Buchhiems book The U-Boat War and was wondering if anyone at all has tryed to develop a mod that ads the area where the helmsman sits in the boat, which is inbetween the Control Room and the part where the attack periscope is inside the Conning Tower?

05-05-07, 01:18 AM	#4
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,584 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Not as far as I am aware __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

05-05-07, 11:18 AM	#5
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	I'm pretty sure there were two helm positions. The one in the conning tower was used when running an attack, but there was also one at the front of the control room. A mod has been done to move the observation periscope to its proper position, but no-one has yet made the attack 'scope housing in the control room. Photos are from U-boote Westvarts (1941) which (I think) was filmed inside an actual boat. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

05-05-07, 11:44 AM	#6
mr chris Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Herefordshire, England Posts: 3,562 Downloads: 216 Uploads: 0	U-boote Westvarts was filmed aboard U124 or 123 i belive. __________________

05-10-07, 06:13 PM	#7
jcalonso Watch Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Venezuela Posts: 28 Downloads: 490 Uploads: 0	Helms mod Just to clarify things about the helm's position in a VIIC, i attach some pictures I found on uboat.net which clearly show the helmsman position inside the conning tower very close to the attack periscope (as per accompanying text, the photographer was pressing hard his back against the scope). I also have found some schematics of the VIIC type showing an emergency wheel for rudder control just before the aft torpedo compartment and after the battery status panel. I wonder if the big red wheel that partially shows after the panels in the photos is this emergency wheel. May some of the experts out there could further clarify these things. Here is the link to the photos: http://uboat.net/gallery/index.html?gallery=U995C . Best Regards.

05-04-07, 06:39 PM	#2
Raus A-ganger Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 79 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	You mean to the left and behind the bow planesman? And I don't think there is.

05-04-07, 10:28 PM	#3
GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,726 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	The planesmen are in the control room, the helmsmen who controls the rudder sits up in the conning tower IIRC. with nobody occupying that station you kinda have to wonder who is driving the boat!? on the other hand i think it might get quite lonely up there .

05-11-07, 04:41 AM	#8
Spytrx Medic Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Cornwall, UK Posts: 167 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	According to Hartmann it is so too - there is an excerpt from his book in another thread here that talks about it...

05-12-07, 11:27 AM	#9
jcalonso Watch Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Venezuela Posts: 28 Downloads: 490 Uploads: 0	Helmsman mod Going back to the original purpose of this trend, it would be pretty cool if someone could model the rudderman in its conning tower position near the attack scope. It will involve some remodelling of the attack scope room and the inclusion of the planesman pushing the rudder hydraulic buttons. I'm pretty sure there is some modellers out there who can do this without much trouble.... Diving Duck...Anvart...?????