[REQ] How to start docked at tender by default?

[Beery]

I'm looking for a way to have the game start a career mission from the 'docked at tender' position by default. Is there a mod that does this or does anyone know how to mod it?

[BBury]

This would be good. I think it all revolves around the "collision bubble?" that limits being placed within 300 meters of another ship type object.

I'd just like to be able to radio ahead for a rendezvous with a tender for fuel or possible refit.

[Ducimus]

Not sure how you can change the default selection, but i can tell you how to change the locations.

ID= PearlHarbor
NameDisplayable= Pearl Harbor, Hawaii 
ExternalBaseName=Pearl Harbor
AvailabilityInterval= NULL, NULL
DepartureDescription1= -18954703, 2562919, 45.918098 ; Enum of available points, choose one randomly each time a patrol is started
DepartureDescription2= -18954874, 2563059, 46.252201
DepartureDescriptionOut1= 21438780, 3367405, 270.000000 ; Enum of starting points for when the player selects the option to start outside the base

Pretty self explanitory i think. How you get the coordinates is you open up the LND layer and search for a base name. Then copy and paste the lat,long, heading into your flotilla file, and here is where one must be careful, else this will happen:
http://www.ducimus.net/sh4/modding_oops_01.jpg
http://www.ducimus.net/sh4/modding_oops_02.jpg
Not all bases in the LND layer are over water


You can pretty much have the player start whereever you want. In the above code block, those coords for the DepartureDescriptionOut1, put the player past the international dateline, just west of midway, thereby avoiding the IDL bug. How i got those coords was i took a copy of the LND layer, placed a dummy base on it , saved the file, then opend it in wordpad, searched for the base, and got the coords. You'll pretty much have to do something similar.

The trick is starting IN bases. THe problem being that by default the editor doesnt show dock structures on the map. In SH3, there was two ways i was aware of to get this displayed. A fancy hex edited version of the editor, which tend to be propriatry and otherwise not made available for joe modder, or to copy the entire bloody game into another directory. Using the mission editor in the 2nd copy of the game, to access the first. My theory is with resouces in two locations, stuff gets overlayd or something, im not sure why it worked, but in SH3, it just did.

So however you get dock information to be displayed, then you can go about setting your starting points to get coordinate information out of.

[tater]

The merge function in the editor can be used to show the bases on the map--albeit in their kinda low res versions.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=111790

tater

[Ducimus]

Sweet. Thats awesome, much less of a headache. The editor for SH4 has changed so some things are news to me. I just wish it had native 1024X768 support. Run it at that res and some of the dialaog boxes get truncated on the bottom of the screen.

[Beery]

I think I'm not explaining myself properly. When you start a patrol you have two options - start outside the harbour (default) or start docked at the tender (not default). I'm trying to find a way to start at the tender by default. If I plug in a new start position it's still going to try to get me to start a mission 'outside the harbour' even if I adjust all the start positions to be inside the harbour. What I want to do is change the start patrol screen's 'in harbour' start position dialog box so it's checked by default.