SH3 Commander questions (newbie ones)

Bindolaf · 04-18-07, 02:19 PM

I downloaded it - and I'm not sure I want to use it... However, reading all the good things, I feel I should give it a chance.

1) I am totally unsure about how to use it. Load SH3 first? If I click "Run SH3!" on Commander, will it run the GWX mod .exe or the old one?

2) It's all convoluted... "exit the game after each patrol"? I *really* don't want to - it takes 6-7 mins to load the game and I already have random sound crashes (nothing to do with the game).

3) What happens with loaded games? When can I load games? When should I?

4) I assume that if I leave all the options unchecked the GWX ones will be in effect? I like the fatigue, water murkiness etc just like GWX has them.

All in all I guess I found I need more help getting started - and I am unsure it's worth the trouble.

This is not to bash any modders, please realize. Without you people SH3 would just be plain vanilla. You all took it to the next (and then some level)

robbo180265 · 04-18-07, 03:38 PM

Welcome aboard matey

I've been using SH Commander for a while, so I'll try to answer your questions.

Load the game through SH Commander, whatever mods you have enabled will load as normal.

I normaly try to arrange the end of a patrol to coincide with the end of my nights gaming. Using SH Commander to give out the medals and manage the crews is so much easier than through SHIII.

You load up your games through the same screen as normal, in fact once the game has loaded it's exactly the same as it would be without SH Commander.

You can leave it all unchecked and all will be as normal, but I reccomend you look a the time compression and adjust accordingly. I.E tc near land, whilst hunting, being hunted. Near land I normaly set it to 64,when hunting 128, when hunted 64.
Also check out seasonal waves- they're cool.

I'm not at home at the moment so I'm typing this from memory, hope it helps but if you're still having trouble - post again I'll be home in about an hour and I'll try to talk you through my settings

Bindolaf · 04-18-07, 03:49 PM

It does help, thank you - and it reminds me of one more thing: Crew management. I got the impression from the help file, that crew awards will be totally different in SH3 and Commander, but that the Commander awards will work in SH3 as if they were visible (but they're not). Is that correct?

I don't know... seems like too much trouble :hmm:

Prince Kassad · 04-18-07, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Bindolaf

It does help, thank you - and it reminds me of one more thing: Crew management. I got the impression from the help file, that crew awards will be totally different in SH3 and Commander, but that the Commander awards will work in SH3 as if they were visible (but they're not). Is that correct?

The help file is a bit complicated in that part. I think what it wants to say is that you can change the crew from there and SH3 will adapt to the changes - just if you try to do something that is not possible in normal SH3 (like giving petty officers multiple promotions or giving seamen promotions), the game will show the invalid changes but they won't take effect.

The commander will also warn you if you try to hand out awards before they're handed out in-game - you can ignore the warnings and the awards will still work.

robbo180265 · 04-18-07, 04:41 PM

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The help file is a bit complicated in that part. I think what it wants to say is that you can change the crew from there and SH3 will adapt to the changes - just if you try to do something that is not possible in normal SH3 (like giving petty officers multiple promotions or giving seamen promotions), the game will show the invalid changes but they won't take effect.

The commander will also warn you if you try to hand out awards before they're handed out in-game - you can ignore the warnings and the awards will still work.[/quote]

Spot on mate

I recomend that you give it ago,in the long run it makes life a lot easier.

One thing I should have added in my first post is that the malfunctions setting needs to be turned off. 3 reinstalls of the game before I found out about that setting

I reckon you'll like it once you get used to it but if you don't,just uninstall it.

KevinB · 04-19-07, 04:52 AM

How do you hand out awards? I've tried to do this without success so I hand them out without Commander.
Also, in the manual it states it is inadvisable to download the combined skin pack. Why is this? And are there any other skinpacks I can download?

Umfuld · 04-19-07, 08:51 AM

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One thing I should have added in my first post is that the malfunctions setting needs to be turned off. 3 reinstalls of the game before I found out about that setting

Hmm. 3rd patrol with that setting switched on. No problems so far.

P_Funk · 04-19-07, 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Bindolaf

2) It's all convoluted... "exit the game after each patrol"? I *really* don't want to - it takes 6-7 mins to load the game and I already have random sound crashes (nothing to do with the game).

Well the reason you'd want to do this is because SH3 Commander changes a number of settings within the game to coincide with your patrol date, should you enable them.

Besides. How many patrols do you do in one night? I usually can't get through one patrol in fewer than 2 nights at best. But right now I'm using a type IX.

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3) What happens with loaded games? When can I load games? When should I?

You load your game through SH3 Commander because it registers every profile that you have in your save game folders. It also probes the last save game to determine where you're at in terms of date and patrol (ie. before, just after, mid patrol). It loads the last save game made and adjusts whatever game properties it needs to according to the date and such.

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4) I assume that if I leave all the options unchecked the GWX ones will be in effect? I like the fatigue, water murkiness etc just like GWX has them.

Unchecked options are exactly as they would be if you loaded without SH3 Commander.

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All in all I guess I found I need more help getting started - and I am unsure it's worth the trouble.

Believe me, its very worth the trouble since the trouble today saves you plenty in the future.

SH3 Commander is the only prog that pretty much everyone uses. Its compaitble with anything.

Plus starting a career out of SH3 Commander is much better. You can choose which month rather than just year, u-boat type, u-boat number, set your own patrol grid, and the crew management is much simpler. It looks daunting but anything with lots of options looks complex before you get the hang of it.

Soon enough you'll be saying "whats an SH3.exe?".

04-18-07, 02:19 PM	#1
Bindolaf Seaman Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 36 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	SH3 Commander questions (newbie ones) I downloaded it - and I'm not sure I want to use it... However, reading all the good things, I feel I should give it a chance. 1) I am totally unsure about how to use it. Load SH3 first? If I click "Run SH3!" on Commander, will it run the GWX mod .exe or the old one? 2) It's all convoluted... "exit the game after each patrol"? I really don't want to - it takes 6-7 mins to load the game and I already have random sound crashes (nothing to do with the game). 3) What happens with loaded games? When can I load games? When should I? 4) I assume that if I leave all the options unchecked the GWX ones will be in effect? I like the fatigue, water murkiness etc just like GWX has them. All in all I guess I found I need more help getting started - and I am unsure it's worth the trouble. This is not to bash any modders, please realize. Without you people SH3 would just be plain vanilla. You all took it to the next (and then some level)

04-18-07, 03:38 PM	#2
robbo180265 Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Brighton, England.Party capital of the south Posts: 2,255 Downloads: 126 Uploads: 0	Welcome aboard matey I've been using SH Commander for a while, so I'll try to answer your questions. Load the game through SH Commander, whatever mods you have enabled will load as normal. I normaly try to arrange the end of a patrol to coincide with the end of my nights gaming. Using SH Commander to give out the medals and manage the crews is so much easier than through SHIII. You load up your games through the same screen as normal, in fact once the game has loaded it's exactly the same as it would be without SH Commander. You can leave it all unchecked and all will be as normal, but I reccomend you look a the time compression and adjust accordingly. I.E tc near land, whilst hunting, being hunted. Near land I normaly set it to 64,when hunting 128, when hunted 64. Also check out seasonal waves- they're cool. I'm not at home at the moment so I'm typing this from memory, hope it helps but if you're still having trouble - post again I'll be home in about an hour and I'll try to talk you through my settings

04-18-07, 03:49 PM	#3
Bindolaf Seaman Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 36 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	It does help, thank you - and it reminds me of one more thing: Crew management. I got the impression from the help file, that crew awards will be totally different in SH3 and Commander, but that the Commander awards will work in SH3 as if they were visible (but they're not). Is that correct? I don't know... seems like too much trouble :hmm:

04-18-07, 04:41 PM	#5
robbo180265 Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Brighton, England.Party capital of the south Posts: 2,255 Downloads: 126 Uploads: 0	[/quote] The help file is a bit complicated in that part. I think what it wants to say is that you can change the crew from there and SH3 will adapt to the changes - just if you try to do something that is not possible in normal SH3 (like giving petty officers multiple promotions or giving seamen promotions), the game will show the invalid changes but they won't take effect. The commander will also warn you if you try to hand out awards before they're handed out in-game - you can ignore the warnings and the awards will still work.[/quote] Spot on mate I recomend that you give it ago,in the long run it makes life a lot easier. One thing I should have added in my first post is that the malfunctions setting needs to be turned off. 3 reinstalls of the game before I found out about that setting I reckon you'll like it once you get used to it but if you don't,just uninstall it.

04-19-07, 04:52 AM	#6
KevinB Planesman Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Milton Keynes Posts: 195 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	How do you hand out awards? I've tried to do this without success so I hand them out without Commander. Also, in the manual it states it is inadvisable to download the combined skin pack. Why is this? And are there any other skinpacks I can download?