Diving?

uniquemind · 04-04-07, 04:13 PM

I am sorry first of all if this is a known bug or has been discussed before, but does the Sub dive

I have given the order to go down to say 100 (excuse lack of correct terminology)

and yet although I am being told the depth in intervals, when I watch from the external Camera my sub is just below the surface?! Is anyone else seeing this?

Apologies again if its been talked about before

Uniquemind

donut · 04-04-07, 04:52 PM

This might allow you to be sighted from the air. Probable just graphic glitch,I hope.:hmm:

uniquemind · 04-05-07, 10:05 AM

Well I sure hope it is as in SH3 you actually went down to the depth you specified

I'd like to be able to hide and if in stormy weather you stay like it is now you'd be spotted and therefore you've had it.......so I hope that this is indeed a glitch of some sort

Thanks donut

mookiemookie · 04-05-07, 10:25 AM

Remember that the water in a lot of the Pacific is very clear, and even though you are indeed at 100 feet you still may be seen from above.

Perhaps an ex submariner can clarify....I always thought that when a sub was at say 100 feet depth, that's depth as measured from the bottom of the boat, not the top of the antennas, periscopes, etc.

SteamWake · 04-05-07, 10:30 AM

When you have over 1,500 feet of water beneath you 100 feet seems like 1 foot.

Ive also noticed you cannot get the follow camera nowhere as near the boat as you could in SH3 further skewing the "depth perception".

akdavis · 04-05-07, 10:38 AM

Your sub is some 300 feet long. 100 feet at the keel is not going to look very deep.

-Pv- · 04-06-07, 03:59 PM

The depth of the sub is measured at the keel not the top of the mast. Even at 100 ft depth, the top of the parascope supports could be as close as 60 feet under the surface. Low flying aircraft could see submerged subs near parascope depth when flying directly overhead. Fortunately, surface reflections make the sub less visible fron an angle. The depth you set in the depth control tool is the depth you get when the boat settles out. The method or speed at which you obtain that depth has nothing to do with the final result. Most the sub models in the game will use 15 to 18 feet of draft at the surface, so when you descend to 100 ft, you have only dropped your keel by 85 to 90 feet. The smaller the sub, the less visible you are at any given depth.

The angle you use on your external camera also may fool you as to the effect of depth on the visual model. Just because your camera is washing out doesn't mean the submarine is at the same depth as your camera.

These realizations have probably come to you as a result of this:
1) parascope depth is not very deep.
2) you can never seem to go deep enough when trying to evade a determined enemy.
3) you can make contact with surfaced ships at parascope depth and aren't really 'safe' until submerged over 100' from most large ships.
-Pv-

04-04-07, 04:13 PM	#1
uniquemind Loader Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 86 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Diving? I am sorry first of all if this is a known bug or has been discussed before, but does the Sub dive I have given the order to go down to say 100 (excuse lack of correct terminology) and yet although I am being told the depth in intervals, when I watch from the external Camera my sub is just below the surface?! Is anyone else seeing this? Apologies again if its been talked about before Uniquemind

04-04-07, 04:52 PM	#2
donut The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: The Shifting, Whispering Sands, NM Posts: 1,463 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	yes This might allow you to be sighted from the air. Probable just graphic glitch,I hope.:hmm:

04-05-07, 10:25 AM	#4
mookiemookie Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 9,404 Downloads: 105 Uploads: 1	Remember that the water in a lot of the Pacific is very clear, and even though you are indeed at 100 feet you still may be seen from above. Perhaps an ex submariner can clarify....I always thought that when a sub was at say 100 feet depth, that's depth as measured from the bottom of the boat, not the top of the antennas, periscopes, etc. __________________ They don’t think it be like it is, but it do. Want more U-boat Kaleun portraits for your SH3 Commander Profiles? Download the SH3 Commander Portrait Pack here.

04-05-07, 10:38 AM	#6
akdavis Samurai Navy Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Fort Worth, Texas Posts: 597 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Your sub is some 300 feet long. 100 feet at the keel is not going to look very deep. __________________ -AKD

04-05-07, 10:05 AM	#3
uniquemind Loader Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 86 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Well I sure hope it is as in SH3 you actually went down to the depth you specified I'd like to be able to hide and if in stormy weather you stay like it is now you'd be spotted and therefore you've had it.......so I hope that this is indeed a glitch of some sort Thanks donut

04-05-07, 10:30 AM	#5
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	When you have over 1,500 feet of water beneath you 100 feet seems like 1 foot. Ive also noticed you cannot get the follow camera nowhere as near the boat as you could in SH3 further skewing the "depth perception".

04-06-07, 03:59 PM	#7
-Pv- The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,434 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	The depth of the sub is measured at the keel not the top of the mast. Even at 100 ft depth, the top of the parascope supports could be as close as 60 feet under the surface. Low flying aircraft could see submerged subs near parascope depth when flying directly overhead. Fortunately, surface reflections make the sub less visible fron an angle. The depth you set in the depth control tool is the depth you get when the boat settles out. The method or speed at which you obtain that depth has nothing to do with the final result. Most the sub models in the game will use 15 to 18 feet of draft at the surface, so when you descend to 100 ft, you have only dropped your keel by 85 to 90 feet. The smaller the sub, the less visible you are at any given depth. The angle you use on your external camera also may fool you as to the effect of depth on the visual model. Just because your camera is washing out doesn't mean the submarine is at the same depth as your camera. These realizations have probably come to you as a result of this: 1) parascope depth is not very deep. 2) you can never seem to go deep enough when trying to evade a determined enemy. 3) you can make contact with surfaced ships at parascope depth and aren't really 'safe' until submerged over 100' from most large ships. -Pv-