Unescorted convoys

Foghladh_mhara · 04-04-07, 07:42 AM

During the early stages of the war due to a lack of escorts with the range for transatlantic crossings a lot of the slow convoys were only escorted a distance out from their departure port and received about the same distance from their inbound port. (I have read somewhere the lines of longitude upto which cover was provided but cant find it now

) This changed with the occupation of Iceland and the setting up of dedicated escort groups that took over the middle stretch of the journey.

Is this reflected in GWX and if so does anybody know beyond which points on the grid map beyond which convoys were on their own?

I'm still in Nov 1939 in my latest career and have been dreaming about what an enterprising Kaleun could do to a defenceless convoy that still hasn't been equipped with deck guns on the high seas :hmm: 14 eels and 220 rounds of deck gun ammo.

I'm coming over all faint

3Jane · 04-04-07, 09:23 AM

In mid '40 I found a convoy of medium merchants and large tankers escorted by only a V+W at the front and a corvette at the rear, nothing on the sides at all. Haven't been that lucky since though.

TarJak · 04-04-07, 09:46 AM

bigboywoolly is the person to ask about this. You could send a PM. Not sure if that's one of the "secrets" of GWX though so he might hint but not tell. I don't think it is possible to split a convoy or delete units from it in SHIII during it's passage though so if it starts with escorts it will have them the whole way because of the way units in a convoy are handled. BBW?

Mush Martin · 04-04-07, 09:49 AM

Actually I beleive it has been done to a certain extent
but still easier to ask bbw than to go through all
the convoys in rnd layer.

MM

Jimbuna · 04-04-07, 10:04 AM

It is reflected in the number and 'capability/status' of the escorts as the war progresses. Air cover is also representative of reality ie: combat radius

Foghladh_mhara · 04-04-07, 10:35 AM

Of course there is the small matter of actually finding a convoy in the middle of the wide North Atlantic but thats a mere technicality

Think I'll give my patrol area a miss on this cruise and follow the Pet Shop Boys advice. Go West the man said and so I shall. About 600 miles off the Irish coast for starters and then the waiting will begin

04-04-07, 07:42 AM	#1
Foghladh_mhara Commander Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Kent Posts: 473 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Unescorted convoys During the early stages of the war due to a lack of escorts with the range for transatlantic crossings a lot of the slow convoys were only escorted a distance out from their departure port and received about the same distance from their inbound port. (I have read somewhere the lines of longitude upto which cover was provided but cant find it now ) This changed with the occupation of Iceland and the setting up of dedicated escort groups that took over the middle stretch of the journey. Is this reflected in GWX and if so does anybody know beyond which points on the grid map beyond which convoys were on their own? I'm still in Nov 1939 in my latest career and have been dreaming about what an enterprising Kaleun could do to a defenceless convoy that still hasn't been equipped with deck guns on the high seas :hmm: 14 eels and 220 rounds of deck gun ammo. I'm coming over all faint __________________ The beauty of not planning is that failure comes as a complete surprise without any of the stress that might normally precede such a venture

04-04-07, 09:23 AM	#2
3Jane Ace of the Deep Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: York. Northern England. Posts: 1,004 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	In mid '40 I found a convoy of medium merchants and large tankers escorted by only a V+W at the front and a corvette at the rear, nothing on the sides at all. Haven't been that lucky since though. __________________ Fate opposes me in vitality and morality, forced ever onward, burdened, always in shackles. So this very moment, without tarrying, pluck the quivering strings. Because fate punishes the one who plays, all lament with me. (http://hosted.filefront.com/KatherineRowan)

04-04-07, 09:49 AM	#4
Mush Martin Eternal Patrol Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 4,398 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Actually I beleive it has been done to a certain extent but still easier to ask bbw than to go through all the convoys in rnd layer. MM __________________ RIP Mush Tutorial

04-04-07, 10:04 AM	#5
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,918 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	It is reflected in the number and 'capability/status' of the escorts as the war progresses. Air cover is also representative of reality ie: combat radius __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

04-04-07, 10:35 AM	#6
Foghladh_mhara Commander Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Kent Posts: 473 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Of course there is the small matter of actually finding a convoy in the middle of the wide North Atlantic but thats a mere technicality Think I'll give my patrol area a miss on this cruise and follow the Pet Shop Boys advice. Go West the man said and so I shall. About 600 miles off the Irish coast for starters and then the waiting will begin __________________ The beauty of not planning is that failure comes as a complete surprise without any of the stress that might normally precede such a venture

04-04-07, 09:46 AM	#3
TarJak Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 17,052 Downloads: 150 Uploads: 8	bigboywoolly is the person to ask about this. You could send a PM. Not sure if that's one of the "secrets" of GWX though so he might hint but not tell. I don't think it is possible to split a convoy or delete units from it in SHIII during it's passage though so if it starts with escorts it will have them the whole way because of the way units in a convoy are handled. BBW?