Crew on the bridge in reality?

cardician · 03-30-07, 11:08 AM

Yet another question about how the game mimics reality. So in bad weather with 15 km/hr winds and huge waves, there are numerous times when I'll be on the bridge and the entier boat and everyone on the bridge will submerge a couple meters under water. I'm assuming in bad weather this is realistic. My question, what did they do in real life? Did they really force people to man the bridge during such conditions? I'm assuming the people would have had to tie themselves off so they wouldn't go washing away. Not to mention I'm betting it would be VERY cold.

Man, modern day submariners have it easy. I was reading about one sub today that is so big there is literally a swimming pool in it?!? Now that's irony. :p

danlisa · 03-30-07, 11:21 AM

LOL, go and buy/rent Das Boot.

If you want to know what happens in bad weather.

Das ist Thomsen!!!!:rotfl:

Really, if the weather was bad enough to cover the bridge in RL then I suspect they either submerged to wait it out or did not maintain a watch crew. That's if waves could actually cover the bridge in RL, this is a game after all.

Genferret · 03-30-07, 11:26 AM

Heh, I don't recall really how bad the weather was, but if you have GWX installed (without the Das Boot optional video mod) sit at the menu some time and watch the video.

All I could say is "wow" several times over as I watched the conditions those guys were in on the bridge and sometimes on the deck manning guns.

After watching that I think there needs to be a mod that over-rides SH3s refusal to let you man the guns in bad weather. Maybe make it so there's a chance of a guy getting washed overboard (just make him die on deck) to keep the realism going, but after seeing those videos I think my men are a bunch of sissies for refusing to man the guns in some of the weather they've done so in.

cardician · 03-30-07, 11:31 AM

That's another question I had. Stock GWX, what video is that playing on the main menu? Is that Das Boot? Because there is also the mod you can add in that says something about a Das Boot video. Are they both from Das Boot?

But yeah, actually I plan on getting a copy of Das Boot to watch. I hear the version on DVD is 3 1/2 hours. Sounds good to me

Genferret · 03-30-07, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by cardician

That's another question I had. Stock GWX, what video is that playing on the main menu? Is that Das Boot? Because there is also the mod you can add in that says something about a Das Boot video. Are they both from Das Boot?

But yeah, actually I plan on getting a copy of Das Boot to watch. I hear the version on DVD is 3 1/2 hours. Sounds good to me

From what I understand, what we are seeing there is actual war footage in that little screen on the right side of the menu.

Stock SHIII plays in-game footage.
GWX plays actual war footage.
GWX w/ the Das Boot mod enabled and you get Das Boot footage.

AVGWarhawk · 03-30-07, 12:05 PM

Yes, it was manned and with safety straps. The straps did not always hold. Hardegan transversed the Atlantic during operation drumbeat. He submerged for 55 miles of it. The rest was surfaced with men on the watch no matter the weather. He did have bad weather with waves coming over the tower.

Sailor Steve · 03-30-07, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by cardician

But yeah, actually I plan on getting a copy of Das Boot to watch. I hear the version on DVD is 3 1/2 hours. Sounds good to me

There are two DVD versions available (the original theatrical release was 2-1/2 hours):

1) The Director's Cut: 3-1/2 half hours, better sound and subtitles.

2) The "Original, Uncut Version": 4 hours, 53 minutes, much more immersive, many extra scenes and narration by Leutnant Werner. It is basically the miniseries version with between-the-episodes titles and credits removed.

cardician · 03-30-07, 05:33 PM

Where would one get the uncut version? The only one I've seen available on Netflix here in the US (not that you aren't in the US but there seem to be people from all over on here

) is the 3 1/2 hour version. I probably would watch the uncut version if I could find it.:hmm:

P_Funk · 03-30-07, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

The "Original, Uncut Version": 4 hours, 53 minutes, much more immersive, many extra scenes and narration by Leutnant Werner. It is basically the miniseries version with between-the-episodes titles and credits removed.

Why would you want to watch any other version?

Crazy Ian · 03-31-07, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by cardician

Man, modern day submariners have it easy. I was reading about one sub today that is so big there is literally a swimming pool in it?!? Now that's irony. :p

That was the Russian Typhoon class.... sadly the rest of us make do with our 3 showers to share between 120-130 personell...

03-30-07, 11:08 AM	#1
cardician Torpedoman Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 115 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Crew on the bridge in reality? Yet another question about how the game mimics reality. So in bad weather with 15 km/hr winds and huge waves, there are numerous times when I'll be on the bridge and the entier boat and everyone on the bridge will submerge a couple meters under water. I'm assuming in bad weather this is realistic. My question, what did they do in real life? Did they really force people to man the bridge during such conditions? I'm assuming the people would have had to tie themselves off so they wouldn't go washing away. Not to mention I'm betting it would be VERY cold. Man, modern day submariners have it easy. I was reading about one sub today that is so big there is literally a swimming pool in it?!? Now that's irony. :p

03-30-07, 11:21 AM	#2
danlisa Navy Seal Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cornwall, UK Posts: 5,499 Downloads: 45 Uploads: 1	LOL, go and buy/rent Das Boot. If you want to know what happens in bad weather. Das ist Thomsen!!!!:rotfl: Really, if the weather was bad enough to cover the bridge in RL then I suspect they either submerged to wait it out or did not maintain a watch crew. That's if waves could actually cover the bridge in RL, this is a game after all. __________________

03-30-07, 12:05 PM	#6
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,282 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Yes, it was manned and with safety straps. The straps did not always hold. Hardegan transversed the Atlantic during operation drumbeat. He submerged for 55 miles of it. The rest was surfaced with men on the watch no matter the weather. He did have bad weather with waves coming over the tower. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

03-30-07, 11:26 AM	#3
Genferret Loader Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 85 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 0	Heh, I don't recall really how bad the weather was, but if you have GWX installed (without the Das Boot optional video mod) sit at the menu some time and watch the video. All I could say is "wow" several times over as I watched the conditions those guys were in on the bridge and sometimes on the deck manning guns. After watching that I think there needs to be a mod that over-rides SH3s refusal to let you man the guns in bad weather. Maybe make it so there's a chance of a guy getting washed overboard (just make him die on deck) to keep the realism going, but after seeing those videos I think my men are a bunch of sissies for refusing to man the guns in some of the weather they've done so in.

03-30-07, 11:31 AM	#4
cardician Torpedoman Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 115 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	That's another question I had. Stock GWX, what video is that playing on the main menu? Is that Das Boot? Because there is also the mod you can add in that says something about a Das Boot video. Are they both from Das Boot? But yeah, actually I plan on getting a copy of Das Boot to watch. I hear the version on DVD is 3 1/2 hours. Sounds good to me

03-30-07, 05:33 PM	#8
cardician Torpedoman Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 115 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Where would one get the uncut version? The only one I've seen available on Netflix here in the US (not that you aren't in the US but there seem to be people from all over on here ) is the 3 1/2 hour version. I probably would watch the uncut version if I could find it.:hmm: