Only holes sometimes?

shawnyp420 · 03-25-07, 09:12 AM

I noticed that only about 10% of my torpedos put holes in the sides of ships. What gives? I even try ONLY using the contact fuse (everyone says the magnetic fuse is rubbish) and I still don't get a hole with every shot.

Another thing I'm noticing is that the auto solution shoots way right. I end up having to compensate with the salvo selector to get fish near the funnel. I'm not so good inputing manual solutions.

CaptJodan · 03-25-07, 09:31 AM

The first part I get too. Not sure why that is, but sometimes you shoot fish and they have no damage what so ever done. No fire, no holes. The boat doesn't even list a slight bit. Very odd.

In regards to your second problem, don't set the fish to go fast. I think it's a bug, so at the moment I'm running my fish on slow, and that seems to help. They seem to hit their targets in the right spot.

malkuth74 · 03-25-07, 12:04 PM

People are starting to think this is a feature. US torps we extremly bad in first year of the war. I think the way the devs made this happen in game is with some sort of Damage system for the torps.

For instance some might cause Total damage points say 300. Others might be duds and only cause 30 damage. etc.

dize · 03-25-07, 12:22 PM

yes, i thought about this too. i have done 6 patrols now, in 42 and 43, and im not getting any real dud's, like in sh3 where the torp would hit and just not explode. all my torps are exploding on contact, but some of em seem not to do any damage.

CaptJodan · 03-25-07, 12:31 PM

Well I don't have duds active, but it seems to to matter (I just came back from a mission where my torpedo ran wild and looped around! Lucky for me I was right next to a dock and the dock took the hit.)

I don't do manual TDC. I'm the Captain. I'm above such things.

But I'm starting to get the impression that it's an angle and/or solution thing. While I was shooting at stationary boats in a relatively undefended harbor (just gunboats, so only had to stay submerged), I did a couple tests and found that my ability to hole a ship increased dramatically if I was shooting properly lined up with the "perfect shot" type deal. Any shots I did that were off the 90 degree line ended up not causing holes or any damage at all. Put about 8 fish in one boat without so much as a list. But turn to getting the perfect shot, and suddenly I had all but one shot make holes, and that one shot at least started a fire.

It requires more testing, but so far that seems to be what I could determine with stationary targets in a harbor.

Riptides · 03-25-07, 12:51 PM

I think I've started noticing this myself.

On certain ships both direct and glancing shots that hit the bow, stern, or even sometimes dead middle of a ship seem to do little to no damage at all. But there are soft spots, depending on the ship, like between the ends and fore and aft of the middle that is soft as goo. And a good direct hit from the perfect 90degree shot brings them down in one hit every time.

Also on most ships a dead middle shot straight up the butt gets them every time, but get it anything out of 90" square and they recieve middling damage to very little. But I think it all depends on the ship and I think I'm thinking of the "low" areas on ships as the softest spots of all.

shawnyp420 · 03-25-07, 12:58 PM

Yah I'm finding this too. I think it is IMPERITIVE to have the proper aob or the mk14s just won't work. I tried some lower angle shots this morning with the auto tdc and had 8 misses!! Not a single hit!

I reloaded the same situation about 10 times and the best I could do at that angle (1500yds) was 2 hits on the same boat but not sunk....BUMMER!

I also feel that I am the captain, and should just be giving orders...not doing the work. hehe

Helen Keller · 03-25-07, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptJodan

I don't do manual TDC. I'm the Captain. I'm above such things.

Ha!:rotfl:

shawnyp420 · 03-25-07, 03:32 PM

I think the fast setting is bugged somehow. After selecting the fast torpedo setting on auto solution mode, I don't think the TDC compensates for the increased speed?

Torpedos set on fast hardly ever hit...and if they do it's on the very edge.

vodkavera · 03-26-07, 02:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shawnyp420

I think the fast setting is bugged somehow. After selecting the fast torpedo setting on auto solution mode, I don't think the TDC compensates for the increased speed?

Torpedos set on fast hardly ever hit...and if they do it's on the very edge.

That must be why I have such a hard time to hit those damn ships.
Most of the time I lay att 500-600m, 90 degrees.
Torpedo set at fast speed and aim at the bow and they often hit at the stern or misses completly!!
I run the TDC at full automatic so it should only be to aim and fire......

I´ll try to change the speed on the torpedoes to slow and see if that helps.

Does anyone else experienced this problem?

/VV

Immacolata · 03-26-07, 03:12 AM

The tdc is bugged. You should use the lock function and put the spread angle on your shot so that you lead your target with 3 degres or more.

NefariousKoel · 03-26-07, 03:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Immacolata

The tdc is bugged. You should use the lock function and put the spread angle on your shot so that you lead your target with 3 degres or more.

That's what I've been doing with fast torpedoes. 2-9 degrees offset angle ahead of the target but it varies a lot. However, shawnyp is probably on to something with the Slow setting working fine. I'll have to try slow fish more.

03-25-07, 09:12 AM	#1
shawnyp420 A-ganger Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 78 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Only holes sometimes? I noticed that only about 10% of my torpedos put holes in the sides of ships. What gives? I even try ONLY using the contact fuse (everyone says the magnetic fuse is rubbish) and I still don't get a hole with every shot. Another thing I'm noticing is that the auto solution shoots way right. I end up having to compensate with the salvo selector to get fish near the funnel. I'm not so good inputing manual solutions.

03-25-07, 12:04 PM	#3
malkuth74 Sonar Guy Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 377 Downloads: 20 Uploads: 0	People are starting to think this is a feature. US torps we extremly bad in first year of the war. I think the way the devs made this happen in game is with some sort of Damage system for the torps. For instance some might cause Total damage points say 300. Others might be duds and only cause 30 damage. etc. __________________

03-25-07, 12:22 PM	#4
dize Machinist's Mate Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: hamburg Posts: 122 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	yes, i thought about this too. i have done 6 patrols now, in 42 and 43, and im not getting any real dud's, like in sh3 where the torp would hit and just not explode. all my torps are exploding on contact, but some of em seem not to do any damage. __________________

03-26-07, 03:12 AM	#11
Immacolata Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 798 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	The tdc is bugged. You should use the lock function and put the spread angle on your shot so that you lead your target with 3 degres or more. __________________ "The power of the executive to cast a man into prison without formulating any charge known to the law, and particularly to deny him the judgment of his peers, is in the highest degree odious, and the foundation of all totalitarian government whether Nazi or Communist." - W. Churchill

03-25-07, 09:31 AM	#2
CaptJodan A-ganger Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 75 Downloads: 26 Uploads: 0	The first part I get too. Not sure why that is, but sometimes you shoot fish and they have no damage what so ever done. No fire, no holes. The boat doesn't even list a slight bit. Very odd. In regards to your second problem, don't set the fish to go fast. I think it's a bug, so at the moment I'm running my fish on slow, and that seems to help. They seem to hit their targets in the right spot.

03-25-07, 12:31 PM	#5
CaptJodan A-ganger Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 75 Downloads: 26 Uploads: 0	Well I don't have duds active, but it seems to to matter (I just came back from a mission where my torpedo ran wild and looped around! Lucky for me I was right next to a dock and the dock took the hit.) I don't do manual TDC. I'm the Captain. I'm above such things. But I'm starting to get the impression that it's an angle and/or solution thing. While I was shooting at stationary boats in a relatively undefended harbor (just gunboats, so only had to stay submerged), I did a couple tests and found that my ability to hole a ship increased dramatically if I was shooting properly lined up with the "perfect shot" type deal. Any shots I did that were off the 90 degree line ended up not causing holes or any damage at all. Put about 8 fish in one boat without so much as a list. But turn to getting the perfect shot, and suddenly I had all but one shot make holes, and that one shot at least started a fire. It requires more testing, but so far that seems to be what I could determine with stationary targets in a harbor.

03-25-07, 12:51 PM	#6
Riptides Nub Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 4 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I think I've started noticing this myself. On certain ships both direct and glancing shots that hit the bow, stern, or even sometimes dead middle of a ship seem to do little to no damage at all. But there are soft spots, depending on the ship, like between the ends and fore and aft of the middle that is soft as goo. And a good direct hit from the perfect 90degree shot brings them down in one hit every time. Also on most ships a dead middle shot straight up the butt gets them every time, but get it anything out of 90" square and they recieve middling damage to very little. But I think it all depends on the ship and I think I'm thinking of the "low" areas on ships as the softest spots of all.

03-25-07, 12:58 PM	#7
shawnyp420 A-ganger Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 78 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Yah I'm finding this too. I think it is IMPERITIVE to have the proper aob or the mk14s just won't work. I tried some lower angle shots this morning with the auto tdc and had 8 misses!! Not a single hit! I reloaded the same situation about 10 times and the best I could do at that angle (1500yds) was 2 hits on the same boat but not sunk....BUMMER! I also feel that I am the captain, and should just be giving orders...not doing the work. hehe

03-25-07, 03:32 PM	#9
shawnyp420 A-ganger Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 78 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	I think the fast setting is bugged somehow. After selecting the fast torpedo setting on auto solution mode, I don't think the TDC compensates for the increased speed? Torpedos set on fast hardly ever hit...and if they do it's on the very edge.