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Old 03-21-07, 09:51 PM   #1
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Default One mans opinion of Left v. Right

"While the right wants to reward beneficial choices and discourage destructive directions, the left seeks to eliminate or reduce the impact of the disadvantages that result from bad decisions. In place of the conservative emphasis on accountability, the left proffers a gospel of indiscriminate compassion".



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Old 03-21-07, 10:05 PM   #2
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I think it is important to discriminate between the social and the economic left and right.
You can be socialy right wing, yet economicaly left wing or vice-versa.

this text does not make that discresion.
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Old 03-21-07, 10:44 PM   #4
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How can militant feminists applaud the anti-American rhetoric of Islamist crazies who want to keep all women in burkas as the property of their husbands, and how can gay activists identify with jihadi killers who endorse the execution of homosexuals?
dangit, I started laughing
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Old 03-21-07, 10:59 PM   #5
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I think it is important to discriminate between the social and the economic left and right.
You can be socialy right wing, yet economicaly left wing or vice-versa.

this text does not make that discresion.
Ya know Letum I used to make the same distinction between social and economic.
I then started to research the social activision which I thought was morally correct and didn't affect me economically. What I found was that huge economic insitutions have grown around the social morals which I found important. Much of the good I thought was being done was wasted upon extravagance and waste. The Red Cross, after 9/11, and how it used the contributions is but one example.

I have been been convinced, by my research, that social and economic ideals cannot be seperated. Although I am often saddened by the plight of the unfortunate, I cannot in good conscience condem those who are in a better position both socially and economically.
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I think it is important to discriminate between the social and the economic left and right.
You can be socialy right wing, yet economicaly left wing or vice-versa.

this text does not make that discresion.
I have been been convinced, by my research, that social and economic ideals cannot be seperated.
How about Stalin and Hitler?

Both where socialy authoritarian (on the right), however whilst Stalin was on the economic left, Hitler was mainly on the economic right wing.
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I think it is important to discriminate between the social and the economic left and right.
You can be socialy right wing, yet economicaly left wing or vice-versa.

this text does not make that discresion.
I have been been convinced, by my research, that social and economic ideals cannot be seperated.
How about Stalin and Hitler?

Both where socialy authoritarian (on the right), however whilst Stalin was on the economic left, Hitler was mainly on the economic right wing.
Both were dictatorial. I will not base any difference between conservative or liberal based upon either of those regimes. I hope you are of the same mind.
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Old 03-22-07, 09:48 AM   #8
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How about Stalin and Hitler?

Both where socialy authoritarian (on the right), however whilst Stalin was on the economic left, Hitler was mainly on the economic right wing.
Whoa, where did you read this? Is something about the concept of National Socialist Workers Party confusing?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economics_of_fascism

I'm sorry, but if you ain't talking the politics of Fredrick von Hayek, your economics ain't 'right' or 'conservative.'

There is very very little difference between Hitler and Stalin, except Hitler hated Jews, Homosexuals, Gypsies, Communists and democrats, while Stalin hated everybody except, it seems, Hitler himself. So please, leave this misnomer to the World Civ. II classroom, where Marxist Professors like to tout it to wide-eyed freshmen.
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