SH4 on older cards

DaMaGe007 · 03-21-07, 04:10 AM

Those of you with older vid cards who were expecting it to run like Sh3 GWX....your going to be sourly disapointed, it runs like ass..and I mean ASS...

Even on lowest settings Im getting about 3-5 frames per second.

I have to have more of a play with it, but Sh3 with a few tweaks this is not...

Be Aware...

They say aditional chipsets may be supported after release...although we all know how that usually turns out...

Fat Bhoy Tim · 03-21-07, 04:11 AM

Informative.

DaMaGe007 · 03-21-07, 04:13 AM

It says geforce 6200 + on the box...

I have a 5700 256mb, p4 dualcore 2,8g and 1 gig of ram...and its unplayable...

Even on lowest settings...

Fat Bhoy Tim · 03-21-07, 04:16 AM

Somewhat more informative.

DaMaGe007 · 03-21-07, 04:23 AM

I thought you may like that a bit better...

But you know how you can usually just drop the settings and still play...not from the looks of things...a patch to support other chipsets may be in the works, but my card isnt that bad.

Ati cards it says 9600 +...

First time I have had to pay attention to the system specs for a game, and I recomend others do so before you waste a trip to the game store.

The system specs seem to be unusually high for a game comming out at the moment. I just though it was worth mentioning as some forum members say they have older rigs...

jonass · 03-21-07, 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by DaMaGe007

but my card isnt that bad.

Sorry to say, but your 5700 card is really old and minimum specs has always meant that the game will "run" but not much more... precisely as you state above.

SH4 is way ahead of SH3 when it comes to the graphics departement and thus you can not compare them in that way. No matter how low you set your settings SH4 will run very poorly on a system equipped with a graphics card at or near minimum specifications.

Besides the above systems with these types of graphics cards inside almost always have bottlenecks in other areas as well, like CPU type and amount of memory available.

Good of you however to come back to these forums and tell the rest of us what we have to wait if we decide to buy the game and play it on a system at or near the minimum specifications.

Regards,

Jonas

Immacolata · 03-21-07, 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by DaMaGe007

I thought you may like that a bit better...

But you know how you can usually just drop the settings and still play...not from the looks of things...a patch to support other chipsets may be in the works, but my card isnt that bad.

LOL. Yes it is! 5xxx series is the worst crap you ever saw from Nvidia since their Edge-cards. But crap or not, the 5700 model was out in late 2003. Your card isn't just bad, it sucks due to age. I suggest you save up for a replacement. Don't forget when SH3 was released your card model was "merely" about 1½ years old. It is now 2 years since.

A complete new computer is probably too expensive for you at this point, but that 1 giga of memory is also a concern I think. It would be interesting to hear from other 1-gigabyters. I have 2 and with that there are no significant problems.

SteamWake · 03-21-07, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DaMaGe007

It says geforce 6200 + on the box...

I have a 5700 256mb, p4 dualcore 2,8g and 1 gig of ram...and its unplayable...

Even on lowest settings...

Hrmmm arent you the same guy that is running it on Win2000 ?

DaMaGe007 · 03-21-07, 12:22 PM

yes, but others have mentioned it runsfine on win2k with a 6000 series graphics card, its not the OS.
This info is in the other thread which has moved off the page I think.

walsh2509 · 03-21-07, 01:18 PM

P4 2Ghz (no duel core)
1Gb DDR
GF6600GT

I run on MED settings, and while it takes time to load and in the 1st few minutes its very slow to jump station to station after it settles down I get about 20/25fps.

CT it does freeze at times but after about a minutes its ok, little blocks of slow down or freezing in CT.

Immacolata · 03-21-07, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SteamWake

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaMaGe007

It says geforce 6200 + on the box...

I have a 5700 256mb, p4 dualcore 2,8g and 1 gig of ram...and its unplayable...

Even on lowest settings...

Hrmmm arent you the same guy that is running it on Win2000 ?

Win2000 is just WinXP minus all the tardiness. For all intents and purposes the two os'es are similiar.

9th_cow · 03-21-07, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DaMaGe007

It says geforce 6200 + on the box...

I have a 5700 256mb, p4 dualcore 2,8g and 1 gig of ram...and its unplayable...

Even on lowest settings...

i have a pooforce 6200 turbocache. i think its 256mb.
AMD athlon 64 3500 (1.8ghz)
1 gig ram.

i have enviromental effects on. maybe something else. my mouse sure wont fly across the screen like the one in the YOUTUBE vid, but apart from the ussuall start its fine.
on start up i hit the deck and do a 360 with the binos. all is fine after that.

lighting effects are the ultimate killer on my rig.
still looks nice and runs quite well indeed.

AVGWarhawk · 03-21-07, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 9th_cow

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaMaGe007

It says geforce 6200 + on the box...

I have a 5700 256mb, p4 dualcore 2,8g and 1 gig of ram...and its unplayable...

Even on lowest settings...

i have a pooforce 6200 turbocache. i think its 256mb.
AMD athlon 64 3500 (1.8ghz)
1 gig ram.

i have enviromental effects on. maybe something else. my mouse sure wont fly across the screen like the one in the YOUTUBE vid, but apart from the ussuall start its fine.
on start up i hit the deck and do a 360 with the binos. all is fine after that.

lighting effects are the ultimate killer on my rig.
still looks nice and runs quite well indeed.

This makes me feel better. I have the 6200OC 256mb card. 1 gig ram and the AMD 3200+. With luck mine should run like yours. I plan on overclocking the card up some more

You can make a 6200 run like a 6600. Some of the 6200 cards 4 more pipelines can be opened for a total of 8 like the 6600 card.

bookworm_020 · 03-28-07, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Quote:

Originally Posted by 9th_cow

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaMaGe007

It says geforce 6200 + on the box...

I have a 5700 256mb, p4 dualcore 2,8g and 1 gig of ram...and its unplayable...

Even on lowest settings...

i have a pooforce 6200 turbocache. i think its 256mb.
AMD athlon 64 3500 (1.8ghz)
1 gig ram.

i have enviromental effects on. maybe something else. my mouse sure wont fly across the screen like the one in the YOUTUBE vid, but apart from the ussuall start its fine.
on start up i hit the deck and do a 360 with the binos. all is fine after that.

lighting effects are the ultimate killer on my rig.
still looks nice and runs quite well indeed.

This makes me feel better. I have the 6200OC 256mb card. 1 gig ram and the AMD 3200+. With luck mine should run like yours. I plan on overclocking the card up some more

You can make a 6200 run like a 6600. Some of the 6200 cards 4 more pipelines can be opened for a total of 8 like the 6600 card.

I have a P4 3.0ghz, 6200 256mb card and soon to be 2.5 gig of RAM (2gig being delivered as we speak)

I have a low profile AGP slot, which means I can't upgrade past this card

It will hold me over for another 6 months, so I can then talk my then wife into leting me buy a new rig.

I don't expect it to run the game with all setting maxed out, But I do hope it will be playable. After all I meet the required specs for the game!

HannesGM · 03-21-07, 09:00 AM

As for me, I'm running SHIV on a 2800+ AMD 64 with 1GB of DDR2 RAM and a Radeon X800XL - no problem at all playing on preconfigured medium settings at all - it runs even smoother than SHIII with GWX expansion at similar settings.

Iirc, the X800XL isn't exactly the latest graphics adapter out there...

03-21-07, 04:10 AM	#1
DaMaGe007 Watch Officer Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 338 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	SH4 on older cards Those of you with older vid cards who were expecting it to run like Sh3 GWX....your going to be sourly disapointed, it runs like ass..and I mean ASS... Even on lowest settings Im getting about 3-5 frames per second. I have to have more of a play with it, but Sh3 with a few tweaks this is not... Be Aware... They say aditional chipsets may be supported after release...although we all know how that usually turns out...

03-21-07, 04:11 AM	#2
Fat Bhoy Tim Watch Officer Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Abu Dhabi Posts: 338 Downloads: 46 Uploads: 0	Informative. __________________ Some men are born great, some achieve greatness, and some will always be total gits.

03-21-07, 04:13 AM	#3
DaMaGe007 Watch Officer Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 338 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	It says geforce 6200 + on the box... I have a 5700 256mb, p4 dualcore 2,8g and 1 gig of ram...and its unplayable... Even on lowest settings... Last edited by DaMaGe007; 03-21-07 at 04:28 AM.

03-21-07, 04:16 AM	#4
Fat Bhoy Tim Watch Officer Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Abu Dhabi Posts: 338 Downloads: 46 Uploads: 0	Somewhat more informative. __________________ Some men are born great, some achieve greatness, and some will always be total gits.

03-21-07, 04:23 AM	#5
DaMaGe007 Watch Officer Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 338 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I thought you may like that a bit better... But you know how you can usually just drop the settings and still play...not from the looks of things...a patch to support other chipsets may be in the works, but my card isnt that bad. Ati cards it says 9600 +... First time I have had to pay attention to the system specs for a game, and I recomend others do so before you waste a trip to the game store. The system specs seem to be unusually high for a game comming out at the moment. I just though it was worth mentioning as some forum members say they have older rigs...

03-21-07, 12:22 PM	#9
DaMaGe007 Watch Officer Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 338 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	yes, but others have mentioned it runsfine on win2k with a 6000 series graphics card, its not the OS. This info is in the other thread which has moved off the page I think.

03-21-07, 01:18 PM	#10
walsh2509 XO Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 410 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	P4 2Ghz (no duel core) 1Gb DDR GF6600GT I run on MED settings, and while it takes time to load and in the 1st few minutes its very slow to jump station to station after it settles down I get about 20/25fps. CT it does freeze at times but after about a minutes its ok, little blocks of slow down or freezing in CT.

03-21-07, 09:00 AM	#15
HannesGM Watch Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 30 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	As for me, I'm running SHIV on a 2800+ AMD 64 with 1GB of DDR2 RAM and a Radeon X800XL - no problem at all playing on preconfigured medium settings at all - it runs even smoother than SHIII with GWX expansion at similar settings. Iirc, the X800XL isn't exactly the latest graphics adapter out there...