Zig Zag

robj250 · 03-16-07, 11:05 AM

Howdy.

I have been pestered by aircraft constantly.

Is there a mod that can be installed for SH3 and GWX that will automatically make the sub zig-zag when fighting off aircraft?

It is a terrible job trying to cancel all one's waypoints in oder to make a zig-zag pattern.

Rob

Sailor Steve · 03-16-07, 11:06 AM

Do what they really did...DIVE!!!

And no, you can't make the boat zig-zag automatically; but you can just put the rudder over and go in circles. It works about the same, which is not so well.

robj250 · 03-16-07, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Do what they really did...DIVE!!!

And no, you can't make the boat zig-zag automatically; but you can just put the rudder over and go in circles. It works about the same, which is not so well.

That takes all the fun out of it.

But I will try the rudder thingy.

Rob

bigboywooly · 03-16-07, 11:18 AM

You dont need to cancel your waypoints anyway Rob

Dive
Zigzag
And then return to course when it is safe to

If you need to adjust the first waypoint then click on the tool you use to add waypoints and as you hold it over the first waypoint it will turn red
Click on it then move it to where you need to

Right click and the tool is gone and your sub follows route

danlisa · 03-16-07, 11:25 AM

Just putting this out there. (and no, I have no idea how to do it)

Just like the auto plotting of the Kiel Canal & the changed Plot course button on the NO station, would it be possible to pre-program one of the other automated search patterns to include an 'Aircraft Evasion' option?

Mush Martin · 03-16-07, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by danlisa

Just putting this out there. (and no, I have no idea how to do it)

Just like the auto plotting of the Kiel Canal & the changed Plot course button on the NO station, would it be possible to pre-program one of the other automated search patterns to include an 'Aircraft Evasion' option?

yes and no

its is possible

but due to some constraints of ship behaviour it would be a

wider zig zig patten It wont take but about ten or twenty minutes for
that Ill do it in a little while once I am back in mission editor later.

however testing I would have to contract out for are you willing.
if so I just released UBerboot 1.3 beta
(the only boat for aircraft missions and it includes a good one)
so you may want to grab a copy for the tests of the evasion pattern.

MM

MM

Jimbuna · 03-16-07, 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by danlisa

Just putting this out there. (and no, I have no idea how to do it)

Just like the auto plotting of the Kiel Canal & the changed Plot course button on the NO station, would it be possible to pre-program one of the other automated search patterns to include an 'Aircraft Evasion' option?

Good idea Dan....I'm a lazy B...I just hit the 'D' key

Keelbuster · 03-16-07, 11:26 AM

Yea - I usually zig but don't zag. Rather, zig, then dive. When it's safe i return to course.

Steppenwolf · 03-16-07, 11:39 AM

robj250,
You can cancel ALL of your waypoints by selecting the triangle tool, then pressing Shift-delete.

danlisa,
As far as I know you can change the three search patterns to whatever you like.
You need to edit \data\Menu\Patterns\Pattern1.mis or Pattern2.mis or Pattern3.mis to whatever you want.

Mush Martin · 03-16-07, 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robj250

Howdy.

I have been pestered by aircraft constantly.

Is there a mod that can be installed for SH3 and GWX that will automatically make the sub zig-zag when fighting off aircraft?

It is a terrible job trying to cancel all one's waypoints in oder to make a zig-zag pattern.

Rob

No there is no auto zig zag but I have some advice on it if you do choose
to stay on the surface.

it is really a matter of rythm I as part of Uberboot mod development
end up doing a lot of surface approaches under air attack.

pick your course and aim yourself at it.
then switch your compass dial over to rudder control
in order not to lose speed in the turns only use small increments
of rudder betweeen say 10 and 24 degrees not hard over or you
lose speed to much.

basically to zig zag and have your own hands do it without using
up your concentration its a rythm thing

your orders take a little time to execute so as a baseline technique
I wait for the bow to pass between me and the target as it does so
I reverse the turn after a few seconds the turn is halted as the
bow comes back across your front between you and the target
(or point on the horizon) you repeat the procedure and reverse
your turn. ten minutes of this and you never even think
about it anymore. also you can build delays into this technique
to widen or lessen your zig zag.

an even zig zag is based more on time than space.

there is a great example in the video outgunned
(last link in my siggy)
or come visit us at uberboot development thread where there are
quite a few hands now with surface combat experience.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=106453

03-16-07, 11:05 AM	#1
robj250 Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Port Hardy, BC, Canada 75 yo with M.S. & C.O.P.D. & heart problems Posts: 1,930 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Zig Zag Howdy. I have been pestered by aircraft constantly. Is there a mod that can be installed for SH3 and GWX that will automatically make the sub zig-zag when fighting off aircraft? It is a terrible job trying to cancel all one's waypoints in oder to make a zig-zag pattern. Rob

03-16-07, 11:06 AM	#2
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Do what they really did...DIVE!!! And no, you can't make the boat zig-zag automatically; but you can just put the rudder over and go in circles. It works about the same, which is not so well. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

03-16-07, 11:18 AM	#4
bigboywooly Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Swindon, England Posts: 10,151 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	You dont need to cancel your waypoints anyway Rob Dive Zigzag And then return to course when it is safe to If you need to adjust the first waypoint then click on the tool you use to add waypoints and as you hold it over the first waypoint it will turn red Click on it then move it to where you need to Right click and the tool is gone and your sub follows route __________________ My mediafire page http://www.mediafire.com/?11eoq19bq9r41

03-16-07, 11:25 AM	#5
danlisa Navy Seal Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cornwall, UK Posts: 5,499 Downloads: 45 Uploads: 1	Just putting this out there. (and no, I have no idea how to do it) Just like the auto plotting of the Kiel Canal & the changed Plot course button on the NO station, would it be possible to pre-program one of the other automated search patterns to include an 'Aircraft Evasion' option? __________________

03-16-07, 11:26 AM	#8
Keelbuster Ace of the Deep Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: BA 72 Posts: 1,092 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	Yea - I usually zig but don't zag. Rather, zig, then dive. When it's safe i return to course. __________________

03-16-07, 11:39 AM	#9
Steppenwolf 中国水兵 Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 278 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	robj250, You can cancel ALL of your waypoints by selecting the triangle tool, then pressing Shift-delete. danlisa, As far as I know you can change the three search patterns to whatever you like. You need to edit \data\Menu\Patterns\Pattern1.mis or Pattern2.mis or Pattern3.mis to whatever you want.