Did any wartime US boats have snorkels?

difool2 · 03-02-07, 12:45 AM

Other than a few experimental boats, I don't believe so. Good thing that the Japanese
didn't have the kinds of toys that the Allies did in the other ocean.

Torplexed · 03-02-07, 01:01 AM

Nope. No snorkels during the conflict. Not til well after the war after studying the German Type XXI did the US Navy's GUPPY class subs come into being. The Japanese got a few examples from the Germans and incoporated them into their late war sprint subs like the Sensuikan Taka Sho (Type STS)

IRONxMortlock · 03-02-07, 01:52 AM

What do they say, "necessity is the mother of all invention"?

Except for this perhaps...

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Torplexed · 03-02-07, 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by IRONxMortlock

What do they say, "necessity is the mother of all invention"?

Very true. The Germans captured their first snorkel examples from the Dutch when they overran the Netherlands in 1940. It took the grevious losses being suffered from aircraft in 1942-43 before they starting installing them rather late in the war.

Capt.LoneRanger · 03-02-07, 02:21 AM

It's really funny how people still think the German submarine fleet was the most advanced in the world, just because it was the most famous. :hmm:

Anyway - the Netherlands had been experimenting with the snorkel from 1938 on and Germany adopted that system for their boats. The basic problem about the modification was the stability of the snorkel. Even late-war-submarines had to drive rather slowly, not much faster than 6kts to not damage the tube and it was very vulnerable in rough sea.

For the US, this was simply not practicable. They experimented with the system, but refit-programs were only initiated after the war, accompanied with larger refit-programs for the submarine-fleet, including projects to modify the hull for this purpose, to eliminate the drawbacks.

IRONxMortlock · 03-02-07, 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Capt.LoneRanger

It's really funny how people still think the German submarine fleet was the most advanced in the world, just because it was the most famous. :hmm:

Anyway - the Netherlands had been experimenting with the snorkel from 1938 on and Germany adopted that system for their boats. The basic problem about the modification was the stability of the snorkel. Even late-war-submarines had to drive rather slowly, not much faster than 6kts to not damage the tube and it was very vulnerable in rough sea.

For the US, this was simply not practicable. They experimented with the system, but refit-programs were only initiated after the war, accompanied with larger refit-programs for the submarine-fleet, including projects to modify the hull for this purpose, to eliminate the drawbacks.

Yes, but you have to admit that having their u-boats constantly sunk by aircraft was a huge incentive for the German navy to more rapidly install and use devices such as the snorkle. The US had far less need for it.

Also, don't forget the Type XXI. Revoultionary for its day and the first true submarine.
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nattydread · 03-02-07, 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by IRONxMortlock

What do they say, "necessity is the mother of all invention"?

Except for this perhaps...

Dude! No one even asked the obvious....What the hell are those?!?!?!

mookiemookie · 03-02-07, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by nattydread

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Originally Posted by IRONxMortlock

What do they say, "necessity is the mother of all invention"?

Except for this perhaps...

Dude! No one even asked the obvious....What the hell are those?!?!?!

Beach glasses? Everywhere looks like it's covered in beach sand? :hmm:

IRONxMortlock · 03-02-07, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie

Beach glasses? Everywhere looks like it's covered in beach sand? :hmm:

life's a beach hey?

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03-02-07, 12:45 AM	#1
difool2 Commander Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 459 Downloads: 31 Uploads: 0	Did any wartime US boats have snorkels? Other than a few experimental boats, I don't believe so. Good thing that the Japanese didn't have the kinds of toys that the Allies did in the other ocean.

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Torplexed Let's Sink Sumptin' ! Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 5,823 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	Nope. No snorkels during the conflict. Not til well after the war after studying the German Type XXI did the US Navy's GUPPY class subs come into being. The Japanese got a few examples from the Germans and incoporated them into their late war sprint subs like the Sensuikan Taka Sho (Type STS) __________________ --Mobilis in Mobili--

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IRONxMortlock Watch Officer Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 340 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	What do they say, "necessity is the mother of all invention"? Except for this perhaps... ________ Colorado dispensaries Last edited by IRONxMortlock; 08-14-11 at 02:53 PM.

03-02-07, 02:21 AM	#5
Capt.LoneRanger Bosun Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Germany Posts: 65 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	It's really funny how people still think the German submarine fleet was the most advanced in the world, just because it was the most famous. :hmm: Anyway - the Netherlands had been experimenting with the snorkel from 1938 on and Germany adopted that system for their boats. The basic problem about the modification was the stability of the snorkel. Even late-war-submarines had to drive rather slowly, not much faster than 6kts to not damage the tube and it was very vulnerable in rough sea. For the US, this was simply not practicable. They experimented with the system, but refit-programs were only initiated after the war, accompanied with larger refit-programs for the submarine-fleet, including projects to modify the hull for this purpose, to eliminate the drawbacks. __________________ Greets, Capt.LoneRanger