Marking sonobuoys...help.

Siinji30 · 01-10-07, 03:49 PM

I find a contact on one of my sonobuoys, then I mark it and get a LOB. Then my contact moves a bit across the bearings, and I want to make a new mark. It doesnt work, I am not able to make a second mark of the same contact. I am able to mark other contacts, meaning more than one contact on the same buoy. But why cant a ´update´ my LOB´s?!?! I have tried deleting the LOB on the nav map, and marking again....no LOB comes up the second time. Is this right?!?

Siinji30 · 01-10-07, 03:53 PM

I am though able to make an update LOB, when I use active sonar on a DICASS.....but it´s the passive markings, that don´t work.

It´s not a very weak contact, as the buoys library is able to narrow the search down to 3 different classifications.

Dr.Sid · 01-10-07, 04:20 PM

I have not encountered this problem lately.

You must click on the dot, not just the line. Clicking on the display so the 'marker line' covers the contact is not enough. Mark won't work. You MUST click the dot. Works for me, every time. This also affects library ID .. if you don't click the dot, ID won't show. It is same as with sub's NB display .. you must click the frequency line, not just the peak on the lower spiky line.

Also note that the dot is 3 pixels wide, and it matters where you click. 'Mark' works even if you don't put line cursor exactly on dot center .. but in such case the marked LOB will the the heading of the marker line and not of the contact. The error is like 5-10 degrees, because SB panels are so small.

All other displays marks center of th contact nearest to the cursor, but SB directional displays marks exact cursor (not contact) position. Autocrew of course marks quite exactly, but there is some visible error too.

I use buoys for ID and rough position (and I don't use autocrew). Then all I need is one ping for pinpointing the position (same way in FFG alone or Helo). I don't play P3 much, but even there I'd use active SB to get shooting solution. Passive SB lobs are just too fuzzy.
Also autocrew will mark everything passing by so it can easily clutter whole display. That's why I don't use it.

Subs are typically quite easy to spot even without clicking .. they are quiet, so you will most of the time see only the low frequencies .. surface boats are loud, so you see most of the time all lines. Use quick missions to master technique. It's fast, contact is usually close. Try to intercept it using all possible methods (for example not using helo with FFG).

Siinji30 · 01-10-07, 04:40 PM

I know that I have to be accurate when I move the cursor on the contact, and on the right frequency too, because I have no problems what-so-ever when I mark a contact for the first time, it´s just impossible to mark ANY contacts the second time, it´s as if the game knows which contacts this sonobuoy has contacted ones before, and won´t do it again. (We are talking passive mode, only...active works fine marking several times)

Could this be patch/mod related?

I have the 1.03 patch and LWAMI from Subguru´s website. I first installed the patch, and then the mod. Is this correct?

(I will try a reinstall, without patch and mods....see what happens)

Dr.Sid · 01-10-07, 05:17 PM

I will investigate this .. I have same version and mods .. I just don't remember having such problems.

ASWnut101 · 01-10-07, 06:53 PM

the same happens here.

(I use the base version, right out of the box. no mods.)

01-10-07, 03:49 PM	#1
Siinji30 Seaman Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 34 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Marking sonobuoys...help. I find a contact on one of my sonobuoys, then I mark it and get a LOB. Then my contact moves a bit across the bearings, and I want to make a new mark. It doesnt work, I am not able to make a second mark of the same contact. I am able to mark other contacts, meaning more than one contact on the same buoy. But why cant a ´update´ my LOB´s?!?! I have tried deleting the LOB on the nav map, and marking again....no LOB comes up the second time. Is this right?!?

01-10-07, 06:53 PM	#6
ASWnut101 Admiral Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: USA Posts: 2,021 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	the same happens here. (I use the base version, right out of the box. no mods.) __________________

01-10-07, 03:53 PM	#2
Siinji30 Seaman Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 34 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I am though able to make an update LOB, when I use active sonar on a DICASS.....but it´s the passive markings, that don´t work. It´s not a very weak contact, as the buoys library is able to narrow the search down to 3 different classifications.

01-10-07, 04:20 PM	#3
Dr.Sid The Old Man Join Date: May 2005 Location: Czech Republic Posts: 1,458 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	I have not encountered this problem lately. You must click on the dot, not just the line. Clicking on the display so the 'marker line' covers the contact is not enough. Mark won't work. You MUST click the dot. Works for me, every time. This also affects library ID .. if you don't click the dot, ID won't show. It is same as with sub's NB display .. you must click the frequency line, not just the peak on the lower spiky line. Also note that the dot is 3 pixels wide, and it matters where you click. 'Mark' works even if you don't put line cursor exactly on dot center .. but in such case the marked LOB will the the heading of the marker line and not of the contact. The error is like 5-10 degrees, because SB panels are so small. All other displays marks center of th contact nearest to the cursor, but SB directional displays marks exact cursor (not contact) position. Autocrew of course marks quite exactly, but there is some visible error too. I use buoys for ID and rough position (and I don't use autocrew). Then all I need is one ping for pinpointing the position (same way in FFG alone or Helo). I don't play P3 much, but even there I'd use active SB to get shooting solution. Passive SB lobs are just too fuzzy. Also autocrew will mark everything passing by so it can easily clutter whole display. That's why I don't use it. Subs are typically quite easy to spot even without clicking .. they are quiet, so you will most of the time see only the low frequencies .. surface boats are loud, so you see most of the time all lines. Use quick missions to master technique. It's fast, contact is usually close. Try to intercept it using all possible methods (for example not using helo with FFG).

01-10-07, 04:40 PM	#4
Siinji30 Seaman Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 34 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I know that I have to be accurate when I move the cursor on the contact, and on the right frequency too, because I have no problems what-so-ever when I mark a contact for the first time, it´s just impossible to mark ANY contacts the second time, it´s as if the game knows which contacts this sonobuoy has contacted ones before, and won´t do it again. (We are talking passive mode, only...active works fine marking several times) Could this be patch/mod related? I have the 1.03 patch and LWAMI from Subguru´s website. I first installed the patch, and then the mod. Is this correct? (I will try a reinstall, without patch and mods....see what happens)

01-10-07, 05:17 PM	#5
Dr.Sid The Old Man Join Date: May 2005 Location: Czech Republic Posts: 1,458 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	I will investigate this .. I have same version and mods .. I just don't remember having such problems.