Mounting a 3.7cm SK C/30 on an IXC with a Turm IX/1 tower?

[Ducimus]

I've brought this up before, but i figured id ask again. Cause its one of those things i can't figure out, and i suspect it might be a 3d modelling issue (nodes n such). I also wondered if anyones tried it and ran into some brick wall that makes it impossible.

Now, as near as i can tell, historicaly, the IX/2 tower didnt become available until sometime in 1942. In SH3, IXC uboats have been starting with this tower in 41, when... historically speaking, it shouldn't be. If you look around for pictures, you'll find all sorts of them with an Turm IX/1 tower, and others with the 3.7cm SK C/30 flak gun as well.


Going into the basic.cfg to assign these objects (turm ix/1 and 3.7cm SK C/30 gun) to an IXC in 41 produces some intresting results when you try to man the flak gun. You'll get an undermanned heavy flak, with two crewmembers trying to man the one on the cigerette deck, one being in the "jesus pose".

Trying to shuffle them around, from what i can tell of the games behavior, it seems to be treating the IX/1 tower with the 3.7cm SK C/30, as an IX/3 conning tower. Meaning it seems to be wanting 2 cremembers on the cigerette deck, and at least two (possible more ) on the flak gun.


Now, what i can't understand is, why does this configuration (turm ix/1 w/ deck mounted gun) work for the IXB, and not the IXC? What is different about the IXB that allows this historical setup that the IXC files do not have?

[Ducimus]

The world may never know?

I wish i knew how to fix this.

[Mush Martin]

Dear Ducimus

The 37 mount has two seats the 20 mm mount has one seat

when you mount 20mm on 37mount it wont work cause it thinks its
missing 50 % of the crew.

when you mount 37 in aa mount I cant remember what happened

when you mount deckgun on 37 mount you get ammo type limits for
37 mm and although you have no deckgun crew. it will still work

however it will dissable two aa seats as they are considered now
part of the deckgun crew so the seats still appear on aa side in F7

what is needed is to change the mount type from whichever you dont
want to whichever you want not in cfg

but with hexeditor and once I have it mastered youll be the first to
know ive seen a similar techinique but am still taking hexedit 101

to facilitate these corrections in Uberboot mod.

MM

[Mush Martin]

oh yeah I forgot when you mount deckgun you get no usable sights
if its on Secondary type mount

the correction is to change the mount using hexediter
and correct cfgs to match.

then when you put a different gun on that zone your putting it on the
type of mount it was meant for then the crew slots are right and the seats are right and the ammo types are right.

MM

[Ducimus]

Well i can tell you that i vaguely remember looking at mounting/node names in the dat running a file comparision between the IXB (which works) and IXC (which doesnt work), and didn't notice anything.

[Mush Martin]

are you saying that it works differently for both subs?