Late-war tactics

spork542 · 11-21-06, 05:01 PM

What do you do late war, in 44 and 45 in particular?
This is what I do.

Travel surfaced 12 hours through Biscay, submerge other 12 hours, even if I have a snorkel installed. This is so as to hopefully spot planes more quickly and to be able to fight back. A VIIC/3 or 4 can pack a punch, as can a IX/3. I'll sooner dive, however, but fighting and dying on the surface is certainly better than getting hit by a bomb with the snorkel up. When I'm outside of Biscay, I travel submerged all the time. 23 hours on batteries and 40 meters, 1 hour on snorkel recharging. I use mostly VIIC variants late-war.

melnibonian · 11-21-06, 07:16 PM

In the late years survival is a bit difficult. I tend to use the snorkel quite a bit as it allows me to run undetected from the surface ships. In the Biscay I always stay submerged as the planes are a real hustle. In the late years I usually have a IX boat so I try to go as far away from the Franch and British coast as possible to maximise my chances of survival.

Ducimus · 11-21-06, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by spork542

What do you do late war, in 44 and 45 in particular?

Run snorkel at night long enough to charge bats, shoot torpedo's at anything that happends to blunder accross my path, and start diving deep before they hit.

bookworm_020 · 11-21-06, 07:39 PM

From the end of 1943 I give up my IX Sub and move to a VIIC/4, It's quicker diving times and heavier firepower for dealing with Aircraft is a must, it's also more nimble wich is great for a getaway form angry escorts.
I then hang on till I can get an XXI, if I survive!

andy_311 · 11-22-06, 06:56 AM

"Pray" My IXD2 is not the fastest of boats but the torp loadout is worth it.

AVGWarhawk · 11-22-06, 08:53 AM

I usually just submerge while in port for two weeks. I then surface at that point like I just returned. Heck man, it is dangerous out there, stay home

AS · 11-22-06, 09:10 AM

I simulate a very bad cold and a broken leg, make sure I´m send to hospital and enjoy Nurse Anne taking care of me.

P_Funk · 11-22-06, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by spork542

What do you do late war, in 44 and 45 in particular?

Load my patrol, get sunk, scream some bone chilling expletives, get a bottle from under the sink labelled "for 43-45 ONLY", sit back down and boot up Company of Heroes.

Lzs von swe · 11-25-06, 06:40 AM

Stay down and quiet, keep well clear off any warship contacts, fire from long range and dive and turn away immediately.
Do not use the snorkel if the waves is drowning it, your engine crew will get tired off the running between electric and diesel engine rooms. And your conning tower will be visible between the waves if the sea is too rough, your better off on the surface in that case. Turn your radar off, use only the radar receiver, but remember, Avengers from the escort carriers do not use radar.
Follow your orders, but do not try to be a hero

Hartmann · 11-25-06, 01:18 PM

The late war tactics not fit well with VII and XI boats,

the submerged speed is too low, with batteries or snorkel, also the water condensation inside of an unprepared boat to stay very long time dived cause problems.

the submarine becomes a mine waiting for a target.

i think is better stay submerged with snorkel than stay surfaced, dive and hide the snorkel is only a few seconds. not the 25-40 s in surface.

Be water my friend !!

Ducimus · 11-25-06, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Hartmann

the submarine becomes a mine waiting for a target.

So said Herbert Werner in "Iron coffins". Late war in SH3 mimic's this pretty well, depending on the mod used.

peterloo · 11-28-06, 07:51 AM

Later war --- get U-flak + TV

Little convoy attacking --- hard to do well without sustaining damage

U-flak --- wipes out many planes (up to 23 in a patrol - my best record)

TV --- scare away DDs.

I don't agree docking at base immediately after loading --- although you can get through the war, it is impractical and unrealistic. I'm very down-to-earth.

11-21-06, 05:01 PM	#1
spork542 Chief Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 328 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	Late-war tactics What do you do late war, in 44 and 45 in particular? This is what I do. Travel surfaced 12 hours through Biscay, submerge other 12 hours, even if I have a snorkel installed. This is so as to hopefully spot planes more quickly and to be able to fight back. A VIIC/3 or 4 can pack a punch, as can a IX/3. I'll sooner dive, however, but fighting and dying on the surface is certainly better than getting hit by a bomb with the snorkel up. When I'm outside of Biscay, I travel submerged all the time. 23 hours on batteries and 40 meters, 1 hour on snorkel recharging. I use mostly VIIC variants late-war. __________________

11-21-06, 07:16 PM	#2
melnibonian Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Reading UK Posts: 3,473 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	In the late years survival is a bit difficult. I tend to use the snorkel quite a bit as it allows me to run undetected from the surface ships. In the Biscay I always stay submerged as the planes are a real hustle. In the late years I usually have a IX boat so I try to go as far away from the Franch and British coast as possible to maximise my chances of survival. __________________ http://www.thegreywolves.com/ http://wolvesatwar.com/ Download GWX and other goodies: http://hosted.filefront.com/melnibonian

11-21-06, 07:39 PM	#4
bookworm_020 Navy Seal Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Sinking ships off the Australian coast Posts: 5,966 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	From the end of 1943 I give up my IX Sub and move to a VIIC/4, It's quicker diving times and heavier firepower for dealing with Aircraft is a must, it's also more nimble wich is great for a getaway form angry escorts. I then hang on till I can get an XXI, if I survive! __________________ "There is always one person in any organization who knows whats going on, That person must be fired"

11-22-06, 08:53 AM	#6
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,276 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	I usually just submerge while in port for two weeks. I then surface at that point like I just returned. Heck man, it is dangerous out there, stay home __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

11-22-06, 09:10 AM	#7
AS 中国水兵 Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Germany Posts: 275 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 0	I simulate a very bad cold and a broken leg, make sure I´m send to hospital and enjoy Nurse Anne taking care of me. __________________ Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong. (Oscar Wilde)

11-22-06, 06:56 AM	#5
andy_311 The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Oldham, Lancs,England Posts: 1,312 Downloads: 82 Uploads: 0	"Pray" My IXD2 is not the fastest of boats but the torp loadout is worth it.

11-25-06, 06:40 AM	#9
Lzs von swe Ace of the Deep Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Norrkoping, Sweden Posts: 1,074 Downloads: 66 Uploads: 0	Stay down and quiet, keep well clear off any warship contacts, fire from long range and dive and turn away immediately. Do not use the snorkel if the waves is drowning it, your engine crew will get tired off the running between electric and diesel engine rooms. And your conning tower will be visible between the waves if the sea is too rough, your better off on the surface in that case. Turn your radar off, use only the radar receiver, but remember, Avengers from the escort carriers do not use radar. Follow your orders, but do not try to be a hero __________________

11-25-06, 01:18 PM	#10
Hartmann Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Grid CH 26, Spain ,Barcelona Posts: 1,857 Downloads: 204 Uploads: 0	The late war tactics not fit well with VII and XI boats, the submerged speed is too low, with batteries or snorkel, also the water condensation inside of an unprepared boat to stay very long time dived cause problems. the submarine becomes a mine waiting for a target. i think is better stay submerged with snorkel than stay surfaced, dive and hide the snorkel is only a few seconds. not the 25-40 s in surface. Be water my friend !! __________________ But this ship can't sink!... She is made of iron, sir. I assure you, she can. and she will. It is a mathematical certainty. Strength and honor

11-28-06, 07:51 AM	#12
peterloo Commander Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 462 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Later war --- get U-flak + TV Little convoy attacking --- hard to do well without sustaining damage U-flak --- wipes out many planes (up to 23 in a patrol - my best record) TV --- scare away DDs. I don't agree docking at base immediately after loading --- although you can get through the war, it is impractical and unrealistic. I'm very down-to-earth.