DG1.5 - the opening attack

jdkbph · 06-02-09, 12:16 PM

So has anyone ever been able to achieve near historical results or better?... at least major damage to several Russian units with no (or very few) losses on the Japanese side?

If so, how?

Every time I run this opening battle the IJN attackers get hammered.

JD

jdkbph · 06-03-09, 06:43 PM

Wow! Nobody playing this?

PeriscopeDepth · 06-04-09, 01:02 AM

I personally never play the campaigns with the opening attack as the results have always been too extreme for my tastes as well.

PD

jdkbph · 06-04-09, 05:21 PM

I guess the problem I'm having has to do with reconciling the idea of a sneak attack with the coordinated and aggressive response from the Russians.... as if they were prepared for it but perhaps just didn't know the exact time and place.

I wonder if there's any sort of provision in the game for "strategic surprise" as I've seen in some other games. I am taking the "GQ sounded - ready in X minutes" thing into account, but I don't think that adequately covers this particular scenario.

I've thought about skipping this part and going straight to the historical campaign, but i didn't want to miss out on that second battle (Chemulpo)

JD

alexsmith · 06-21-09, 11:14 AM

When I play for Russians, I usually lost only Pallada through first jap attack - I know guys who were able to save it too. As Japanese I drowned four or five lights cruisers - which is far enough to win the complete game.

Yet I didn't try to play for Japanese in 1.5 - not finished Russian company - so can't say. Still think this is quite similar...

jdkbph · 06-21-09, 12:07 PM

Can you say how you managed that result playing the IJN side?

For instance...

Did you maintain the default headings and keep the speed low (10 knots I think) to avoid detection, or speed up to close the range more quickly?

Did you maintain the starting formations and relative positions or did you manuever your divisions independently? If the latter, what did you do?

How close did you approach before turning to open the arcs for your torpedo tubes? At what range did you actually launch torpedoes?

Did you rely on the standard "torpedo free" order for the entire force, or did you issue specific targeting orders?

Thanks in advance....

JD

06-02-09, 12:16 PM	#1
jdkbph Captain Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 508 Downloads: 104 Uploads: 0	DG1.5 - the opening attack So has anyone ever been able to achieve near historical results or better?... at least major damage to several Russian units with no (or very few) losses on the Japanese side? If so, how? Every time I run this opening battle the IJN attackers get hammered. JD

06-03-09, 06:43 PM	#2
jdkbph Captain Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 508 Downloads: 104 Uploads: 0	Wow! Nobody playing this?

06-04-09, 01:02 AM	#3
PeriscopeDepth Sea Lord Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Pacific NW Posts: 1,894 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	I personally never play the campaigns with the opening attack as the results have always been too extreme for my tastes as well. PD

06-04-09, 05:21 PM	#4
jdkbph Captain Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 508 Downloads: 104 Uploads: 0	I guess the problem I'm having has to do with reconciling the idea of a sneak attack with the coordinated and aggressive response from the Russians.... as if they were prepared for it but perhaps just didn't know the exact time and place. I wonder if there's any sort of provision in the game for "strategic surprise" as I've seen in some other games. I am taking the "GQ sounded - ready in X minutes" thing into account, but I don't think that adequately covers this particular scenario. I've thought about skipping this part and going straight to the historical campaign, but i didn't want to miss out on that second battle (Chemulpo) JD

06-21-09, 11:14 AM	#5
alexsmith Loader Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 81 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	When I play for Russians, I usually lost only Pallada through first jap attack - I know guys who were able to save it too. As Japanese I drowned four or five lights cruisers - which is far enough to win the complete game. Yet I didn't try to play for Japanese in 1.5 - not finished Russian company - so can't say. Still think this is quite similar...

06-21-09, 12:07 PM	#6
jdkbph Captain Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 508 Downloads: 104 Uploads: 0	Can you say how you managed that result playing the IJN side? For instance... Did you maintain the default headings and keep the speed low (10 knots I think) to avoid detection, or speed up to close the range more quickly? Did you maintain the starting formations and relative positions or did you manuever your divisions independently? If the latter, what did you do? How close did you approach before turning to open the arcs for your torpedo tubes? At what range did you actually launch torpedoes? Did you rely on the standard "torpedo free" order for the entire force, or did you issue specific targeting orders? Thanks in advance.... JD