Vista fun

Skybird · 03-18-09, 05:23 AM

I now belong to the group of people who have not only read how bad vista is, but who since two days know by expereince how bad it really is.

For my old parents whom suddenly had an interest to go online withiout ver having dealt with computers before, I got a notebook with 4GB and Vista. Before I hand it to them and start to train them, of course I make myself familiar with it, but the notebook and Vista.

The ergonomy of the OS is terrible. Simply that: TERRIBLE. I have started to reactivate long since forgotten knowledge about MS-DOS and CMD and use the command line interpreter to do some things. And this in the times of modern WINDOWS! ! Instead of keeping things simpley and linear, everything is stupidly blown up, raised in effectless copmplexity, it seems. Organizing the data the way I want and not like Vista wants it, I found to be very complex, and frustrating. and when having choosen certain options, they get ignored anyway (SP1 and latest updates).

Plus I have had several freezes so far.

I hate it. I hated it after one day, I hated it yesterday, and I still hate it after having gotten off my bed today. What a phoney Vista is. Shiny surface - but don't look behind it.

Much worse than I feared. If even I stumble into problems time and again, how will it be for a total newcomer to computer things? I can't be around every time. I only hope at least that remote cointrol software I will try does function reliably (Team Viewer)

One thing is clear, if the next Window bases on the handling design of Vista and features a further "improved" ergonomy over that that steps even further into that direction like vista did, then it will be even crappier in handling, than vista, and certainly something I definitely will not take into account. for my personal use, once I need a new system myself maybe it really is time to go with Linux and leave this microsoft crap behind, really.

Tired. Frustrated. Angry. Vista. and now I will use the CMD interface to defrag the damn thing to get at least a minimum idea of how much fragmentised the HD is. Not even such proven things like the graphical defrag overview of XP they were able to keep. Damn Idiots.

NeonSamurai · 03-18-09, 09:21 AM

Eh Vista kinda grows on you like a fungus after a while after you get use to its way of doing things. After using it a while I wouldn't in general say that its no worse then XP just a bit different (and more resource hungry).

XP was the same too for that matter, XP drove me crazy with a lot of things including the endless nag messages and some layout issues. I wouldn't call XP the model of efficiency either.

Wolfehunter · 03-18-09, 09:52 AM

Neonsamurai is right. XP original was the same. Vista is no different. Both have good sides and bad. I've got windows 7 evaluation copy on another partition. I find I get more performance from win7 than vista. There are many feature similar to vista on windows 7 but less nonsense too.

Anyhow I'm sure there will be people complaining about win 7 like very new OS there alway issues.

I sure do miss the dos days... You can never go wrong there..

longam · 03-18-09, 10:13 AM

If you get bored someday try tweaking your vista to the way you like it. I always set UAC to auto elevate without prompt, it was driving me crazy.

http://www.howtogeek.com/tag/windows-vista/

AVGWarhawk · 03-18-09, 11:57 AM

I love Vista. I have the Home Premium. Currently, for me, XP is slowly disappearing and very drab. I have no freezes, BSOD with Vista. Runs like a champ. All programs I use run well. Really, I look forward to playing with it everyday. Sorry you are pulling your hair out Skybird. It is a good OS...at least from my experience. You know, my parents run it and have no issues. It is a Toshiba laptop they have it on. My mother loves it.

Google vista64.com for the vista forums. Great forum with all kinds of answers to your questions.

FIREWALL · 03-18-09, 12:09 PM

I have XP sp3 and Vista 64 Ultimate on same rig.

No problems with either.

I use 1 OS for somethings and the other OS for others.

Thomen · 03-18-09, 09:49 AM

Interesting. Never had any problems with Vista and runs like a charm for me. I've had many more problems with linux (different distributions), especially during installation. Fedora, as example did not even want to install. It crashed right there every time I tried to install it.
Vista, while it needs some getting used to it time, runs at least for me, stable and reliable.

I also noticed that you had already pretty made up your mind against Vista from the beginning, that might be a problem too that enhances your frustration.

03-18-09, 05:23 AM	#1
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 41,240 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Vista fun I now belong to the group of people who have not only read how bad vista is, but who since two days know by expereince how bad it really is. For my old parents whom suddenly had an interest to go online withiout ver having dealt with computers before, I got a notebook with *4GB* and Vista. Before I hand it to them and start to train them, of course I make myself familiar with it, but the notebook and Vista. The ergonomy of the OS is terrible. Simply that: TERRIBLE. I have started to reactivate long since forgotten knowledge about MS-DOS and CMD and use the command line interpreter to do some things. And this in the times of modern WINDOWS! ! Instead of keeping things simpley and linear, everything is stupidly blown up, raised in effectless copmplexity, it seems. Organizing the data the way I want and not like Vista wants it, I found to be very complex, and frustrating. and when having choosen certain options, they get ignored anyway (SP1 and latest updates). Plus I have had several freezes so far. I hate it. I hated it after one day, I hated it yesterday, and I still hate it after having gotten off my bed today. What a phoney Vista is. Shiny surface - but don't look behind it. Much worse than I feared. If even I stumble into problems time and again, how will it be for a total newcomer to computer things? I can't be around every time. I only hope at least that remote cointrol software I will try does function reliably (Team Viewer) One thing is clear, if the next Window bases on the handling design of Vista and features a further "improved" ergonomy over that that steps even further into that direction like vista did, then it will be even crappier in handling, than vista, and certainly something I definitely will not take into account. for my personal use, once I need a new system myself maybe it really is time to go with Linux and leave this microsoft crap behind, really. Tired. Frustrated. Angry. Vista. and now I will use the CMD interface to defrag the damn thing to get at least a minimum idea of how much fragmentised the HD is. Not even such proven things like the graphical defrag overview of XP they were able to keep. Damn Idiots. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

03-18-09, 09:21 AM	#2
NeonSamurai Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Socialist Republic of Kanadia Posts: 3,044 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	Eh Vista kinda grows on you like a fungus after a while after you get use to its way of doing things. After using it a while I wouldn't in general say that its no worse then XP just a bit different (and more resource hungry). XP was the same too for that matter, XP drove me crazy with a lot of things including the endless nag messages and some layout issues. I wouldn't call XP the model of efficiency either. __________________ SH3 Newbie Guide Links and other helpfull stuff

03-18-09, 09:52 AM	#3
Wolfehunter Crusty Capt. Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 2,752 Downloads: 40 Uploads: 25	Neonsamurai is right. XP original was the same. Vista is no different. Both have good sides and bad. I've got windows 7 evaluation copy on another partition. I find I get more performance from win7 than vista. There are many feature similar to vista on windows 7 but less nonsense too. Anyhow I'm sure there will be people complaining about win 7 like very new OS there alway issues. I sure do miss the dos days... You can never go wrong there.. __________________

03-18-09, 11:57 AM	#5
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 27,821 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	I love Vista. I have the Home Premium. Currently, for me, XP is slowly disappearing and very drab. I have no freezes, BSOD with Vista. Runs like a champ. All programs I use run well. Really, I look forward to playing with it everyday. Sorry you are pulling your hair out Skybird. It is a good OS...at least from my experience. You know, my parents run it and have no issues. It is a Toshiba laptop they have it on. My mother loves it. Google vista64.com for the vista forums. Great forum with all kinds of answers to your questions. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

03-18-09, 12:09 PM	#6
FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	I have XP sp3 and Vista 64 Ultimate on same rig. No problems with either. I use 1 OS for somethings and the other OS for others. __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???

03-18-09, 10:13 AM	#4
longam Admiral Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,014 Downloads: 26 Uploads: 0	If you get bored someday try tweaking your vista to the way you like it. I always set UAC to auto elevate without prompt, it was driving me crazy. http://www.howtogeek.com/tag/windows-vista/

03-18-09, 09:49 AM	#7
Thomen Ace of the Deep Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: West Virginia Posts: 1,207 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	Interesting. Never had any problems with Vista and runs like a charm for me. I've had many more problems with linux (different distributions), especially during installation. Fedora, as example did not even want to install. It crashed right there every time I tried to install it. Vista, while it needs some getting used to it time, runs at least for me, stable and reliable. I also noticed that you had already pretty made up your mind against Vista from the beginning, that might be a problem too that enhances your frustration.