GWX & NYGM sub physics combined, some intresting results - Page 3

Ducimus · 01-22-07, 02:41 PM

I don't know why, i just decided to combine the two to see what would happen. Ive talked abut it in the past, but was never intrested enough to try.

Well, now i did.

All i can say is..... wow.

First you have to understand how both sub models work.

GWX's sub model is primiarly changes in a sub's sim file that adds mass, and probably a couple other itemized changes that i didnt look close eough at the file to notice. The result is primarly more realistic surface performance, with a SLIGHT postive rise submerged. Essentually however, set your depth 2 meters lower then what you'd want, and it behaves just like stock.

NYGM's sub model works.. relatively the exact opposite. From my understanding what they did was to Neuter the type XXI by canabalizing the pumps from it. Then rezone the subs to include the type XXI's pumps, then set the pumps to as near as i can tell, slowly change the subs boyancy in a negative way to give a slight negative down draw. The result is that over time your boat slowly sinks deeper.

HOw the two work, i expected them to counteract each other.

Quite the oppsite, they seem to compliment each other, the trouble is im not sure if the result is desired play. I feel that it will infact make the game harder in some respects. I can say for certain that with both combined, you cannot bottom a boat. (not that bottoming helps anyway

)

The result is this:
Boats have a positive boyancy, and if you stop the engines you'll float right up to the surface over time. Say for example under just the NYGM model , i stop at 15 meters with 100 meters under the keel. Of the course of what im guessing is around 20 mins (maybe longer, i didnt measure the time), your boat will eventually bottom.

WIth the GWX and NYGM models combined, i can stop the boat at 100 meters of water, over the same time period (20 mins or longer), i will slowly rise to the surface if i sit at a dead stop with the motors off.

In either instance by restarting the motors, your sub will trim out at your last specified depth.

If you want to see this for yourself, ive uploaded a test module, the test boat is an IXC, so select that one in a single mission.

Files included:
- NYGM's zon file for the 9c
- GWX's zones.cfg with the pumpsXXI entry from NYGM
- A stock 9c sim file in the documentaton directory if you want to test the NYGM by itself as standalone. Just drop it in the same directory in this mod as the zon file.

D/L:
http://www.ducimus.net/sh3/release/SUB_Physics_TEST.7z

I think this is pretty damn cool.

01-22-07, 02:41 PM	#1
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	GWX & NYGM sub physics combined, some intresting results I don't know why, i just decided to combine the two to see what would happen. Ive talked abut it in the past, but was never intrested enough to try. Well, now i did. All i can say is..... wow. First you have to understand how both sub models work. GWX's sub model is primiarly changes in a sub's sim file that adds mass, and probably a couple other itemized changes that i didnt look close eough at the file to notice. The result is primarly more realistic surface performance, with a SLIGHT postive rise submerged. Essentually however, set your depth 2 meters lower then what you'd want, and it behaves just like stock. NYGM's sub model works.. relatively the exact opposite. From my understanding what they did was to Neuter the type XXI by canabalizing the pumps from it. Then rezone the subs to include the type XXI's pumps, then set the pumps to as near as i can tell, slowly change the subs boyancy in a negative way to give a slight negative down draw. The result is that over time your boat slowly sinks deeper. HOw the two work, i expected them to counteract each other. Quite the oppsite, they seem to compliment each other, the trouble is im not sure if the result is desired play. I feel that it will infact make the game harder in some respects. I can say for certain that with both combined, you cannot bottom a boat. (not that bottoming helps anyway ) The result is this: Boats have a positive boyancy, and if you stop the engines you'll float right up to the surface over time. Say for example under just the NYGM model , i stop at 15 meters with 100 meters under the keel. Of the course of what im guessing is around 20 mins (maybe longer, i didnt measure the time), your boat will eventually bottom. WIth the GWX and NYGM models combined, i can stop the boat at 100 meters of water, over the same time period (20 mins or longer), i will slowly rise to the surface if i sit at a dead stop with the motors off. In either instance by restarting the motors, your sub will trim out at your last specified depth. If you want to see this for yourself, ive uploaded a test module, the test boat is an IXC, so select that one in a single mission. Files included: - NYGM's zon file for the 9c - GWX's zones.cfg with the pumpsXXI entry from NYGM - A stock 9c sim file in the documentaton directory if you want to test the NYGM by itself as standalone. Just drop it in the same directory in this mod as the zon file. D/L: http://www.ducimus.net/sh3/release/SUB_Physics_TEST.7z I think this is pretty damn cool.