[REL] Thomsen's Ships V3.1 is out! All credits to H.SIE (10/12/2008) - Page 24

h.sie · 12-18-08, 03:13 AM

Hi RDP and PT,

so far, I only have programmed a tool which allows fast & easy changes to the mod in order to make PT's life easier. but the ideas and modification rules (eng_power = 50% and so on) mainly came from PT (and his beta-testing team). so I saw myself with the program only as a helper or assistant and I don't know if I have enough time for testing / online-support and enough knowledge for further development and improvement of this mod. I even do not know, if we are on the right way with it, because I've never played with it - programming my tools and doing other small mods took all my time.

I think, if there is enough interest in a further development, we'll find competent people with knowledge and new ideas to do that. Of course I'll help with my program. but I'm not the successor of PT. at time, I would neither deactivate this thread nor change it's title.

ReallyDedPoet · 12-18-08, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by h.sie

Hi RDP and PT,

so far, I only have programmed a tool which allows fast & easy changes to the mod in order to make PT's life easier. but the ideas and modification rules (eng_power = 50% and so on) mainly came from PT (and his beta-testing team). so I saw myself with the program only as a helper or assistant and I don't know if I have enough time for testing / online-support and enough knowledge for further development and improvement of this mod. I even do not know, if we are on the right way with it, because I've never played with it - programming my tools and doing other small mods took all my time.

I think, if there is enough interest in a further development, we'll find competent people with knowledge and new ideas to do that. Of course I'll help with my program. but I'm not the successor of PT. at time, I would neither deactivate this thread nor change it's title.

If you would like I can add what you have here

to the first post.
Let me know.

RDP

h.sie · 12-18-08, 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reallydedpoet

If you would like I can add what you have here

to the first post.
Let me know.
RDP

What I have here? Not sure if I understand correct??

I have:

1) Version V3.1 of PT's Ship Mod on my filefront-page.

2) A program, which I do not want to share, bacause it's been made quick&dirty and only I will be able to use it. No time for supporting it or to write a manual or to make it user-friendly.

3) Instead of sharing the tool, I offer to use it for further modding. If for example one person has tested new modding rules with a few test-ships and thinks to have good (realistic!!!) results, I offer him to mod all the 200-300 ships using the tool based on his new rules. my tool currently can only modify the unit_Ship section of the .sim files

more I do not have.

P.S. perhaps it makes sense to change the title of the thread to V3.1 and to set a link to my filefront-page, perhaps V3.1 cannot be found on PT's FF-page

Philipp_Thomsen · 12-18-08, 10:11 AM

Lets make this easier.

Here's the login for my FF page.

Use at will.

h.sie · 12-18-08, 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Philipp_Thomsen

Lets make this easier.

Here's the login for my FF page.

Use at will.

I've changed the PW to prevent abuse and I'll put V3.1 on that page, which will stay unchanged until your return ...

Philipp_Thomsen · 12-18-08, 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by h.sie

Quote:

Originally Posted by Philipp_Thomsen

Lets make this easier.

Here's the login for my FF page.

Use at will.

I've changed the PW to prevent abuse and I'll put V3.1 on that page, which will stay unchanged until your return ...

Like I said, guys. My mods are your mods. Everyone's mods. All for the community.
H.sie found more safe to change the password. If anybody wants to manage it, upload something new, just ask him the password.

If someone decides that it would be fun to hack it and delete everything, go ahead. Have your fun. To each his own.

ReallyDedPoet · 12-18-08, 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by h.sie

P.S. perhaps it makes sense to change the title of the thread to V3.1 and to set a link to my filefront-page, perhaps V3.1 cannot be found on PT's FF-page

That's what I meant in my previous post

RDP

Dekessey · 01-04-09, 10:45 PM

Anyone tried this mod with GWX 3.0?

Philipp_Thomsen · 01-05-09, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Dekessey

Anyone tried this mod with GWX 3.0?

Working fine at this end.

timbob · 01-05-09, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Philipp_Thomsen

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dekessey

Anyone tried this mod with GWX 3.0?

Working fine at this end.

Do the comments on the first page of this topic about this mod breaking GWX not apply anymore now GWX 3.0 is out then?

Philipp_Thomsen · 01-05-09, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by timbob

Quote:

Originally Posted by Philipp_Thomsen

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dekessey

Anyone tried this mod with GWX 3.0?

Working fine at this end.

Do the comments on the first page of this topic about this mod breaking GWX not apply anymore now GWX 3.0 is out then?

It has been fixed on the previous version.

tater · 01-06-09, 11:02 AM

I was starting to muck around with SH4 for the very same reasons and found this thread. Awesome work, I'm likely to use a lot of this as the starting point for experiemnts in SH4 (heck, maybe the end point, too, but need to see how the AI behaves before I can makle a call).

tater · 01-06-09, 11:12 AM

Was gonna edit, but it's stuill fubar.

What were the 5 edited values?

Sufarced LR, HP, drag and prop-factor under rudder... gc height?

Philipp_Thomsen · 01-06-09, 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tater

Was gonna edit, but it's stuill fubar.

What were the 5 edited values?

Sufarced LR, HP, drag and prop-factor under rudder... gc height?

Surface LR and UD drag = 0,75
Propulsion to 30% of original value. Ex. 100=33
Rudder from 0,03 to 0,02 (only merchants)
GC Height from *whatever* to 0,1.

tater · 01-06-09, 06:41 PM

Gotcha. I tested IJN Ise with these settings except HP. HP I set to 10%. She still gets to 20 knots in 6 minutes.

That's probably not too far from reality. Iowa was capable of stopping in ~4 minutes from 30 knots (a little over 1nm). That's a crash stop, flank to all back emergency. She certainly could not accelerate as fast as she could stop, either. I'd expect Ise to be slower.

12-18-08, 03:13 AM	#346
h.sie Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,192 Downloads: 131 Uploads: 0	Hi RDP and PT, so far, I only have programmed a tool which allows fast & easy changes to the mod in order to make PT's life easier. but the ideas and modification rules (eng_power = 50% and so on) mainly came from PT (and his beta-testing team). so I saw myself with the program only as a helper or assistant and I don't know if I have enough time for testing / online-support and enough knowledge for further development and improvement of this mod. I even do not know, if we are on the right way with it, because I've never played with it - programming my tools and doing other small mods took all my time. I think, if there is enough interest in a further development, we'll find competent people with knowledge and new ideas to do that. Of course I'll help with my program. but I'm not the successor of PT. at time, I would neither deactivate this thread nor change it's title. __________________ My Mediafire page: http://www.mediafire.com/hsie Last edited by h.sie; 12-18-08 at 03:13 AM.

12-18-08, 10:11 AM	#349
Philipp_Thomsen Old Gang Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Drunk at the whorehouse Posts: 2,278 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	Lets make this easier. Here's the login for my FF page. Use at will. __________________ To each his own Last edited by ReallyDedPoet; 12-18-08 at 09:21 PM.

01-04-09, 10:45 PM	#353
Dekessey Torpedoman Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 112 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	Anyone tried this mod with GWX 3.0?

01-06-09, 11:02 AM	#357
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	I was starting to muck around with SH4 for the very same reasons and found this thread. Awesome work, I'm likely to use a lot of this as the starting point for experiemnts in SH4 (heck, maybe the end point, too, but need to see how the AI behaves before I can makle a call).

01-06-09, 11:12 AM	#358
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	Was gonna edit, but it's stuill fubar. What were the 5 edited values? Sufarced LR, HP, drag and prop-factor under rudder... gc height?

01-06-09, 06:41 PM	#360
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	Gotcha. I tested IJN Ise with these settings except HP. HP I set to 10%. She still gets to 20 knots in 6 minutes. That's probably not too far from reality. Iowa was capable of stopping in ~4 minutes from 30 knots (a little over 1nm). That's a crash stop, flank to all back emergency. She certainly could not accelerate as fast as she could stop, either. I'd expect Ise to be slower.